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Old 05-30-2013, 05:10 PM
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I do not agree Neil.
Shindo IC cables are advertised on Matt's web as made of pure silver.
Shindo interconnects and Loudspeaker wire are both silver.

Auditorium 23 interconnects are copper.

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Shindo interconnects and Loudspeaker wire are both silver.

Auditorium 23 interconnects are copper.

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At the end of the day it doesn't matter what they are made from.
Lets not go down that road again. To some people it does matter.

Matt, how would one know if the RCA inputs have been compromised? I have only used shindo or A23 cables, but as my preamp was pre-owned (bought from a dealer) how could I be sure that the previous owner did not do damage?
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Jerome, I wasn't implying that they are not made of what they are made of. What I meant was in the context of a Shindo system it doesn't matter what they are made of as Shindo-san designs his equipment to be used as a 'system' not a group of individual bits.

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Jerome, I wasn't implying that they are not made of what they are made of. What I meant was in the context of a Shindo system it doesn't matter what they are made of as Shindo-san designs his equipment to be used as a 'system' not a group of individual bits.

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I know Neil. No worries.
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Lets not go down that road again. To some people it does matter.

Matt, how would one know if the RCA inputs have been compromised? I have only used shindo or A23 cables, but as my preamp was pre-owned (bought from a dealer) how could I be sure that the previous owner did not do damage?
Good question which is parallel to mine, but should be asked to Jonathan since he raised the issue. He seems to say that the sound is degraded.
In electricity, I always thought that there is contact and flowing of the current or no contact. I do not understand the concept of bad contact.
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The Cinch connectors are a typical example of Male (plug) and Female (socket/receptacle) type of contact.

The always existing variations of the male pin diameter (hot contact on the plug) will be easily compensated by the inner contact 'spring effect' in the female socket. It always works like this. That is rather simple and certainly not rocket science!!!



However, two useful points to be noticed:

1) I do admit that different connector choices on the IC cable will bring very subtle sonic differences. Heavier/bulkier is not always better! The Switchcraft low metal mass Cinch plugs are certainly good products indeed.

2) In connector technology best practice, it is ideal to have the same plating for both the male & female contacts. This would avoid some microscopic current at the interface.
For durability as well if you were going to plug/unplug thousand of times during the product life.
Last case, if your villa is situated next to the sea side in a hot and humid climate (let's say in Phuket as an example) I would definitively recommand to use the same brand ie. material and plating, for the socket and plug.

From an inexperienced poster who worked 9 years in the connector industry. ;-)
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The Cinch connectors are a typical example of Male (plug) and Female (socket/receptacle) type of contact.

The always existing variations of the male pin diameter (hot contact on the plug) will be easily compensated by the inner contact 'spring effect' in the female socket. It always works like this. That is rather simple and certainly not rocket science!!!



However, two useful points to be noticed:

1) I do admit that different connector choices on the IC cable will bring very subtle sonic differences. Heavier/bulkier is not always better! The Switchcraft low metal mass Cinch plugs are certainly good products indeed.

2) In connector technology best practice, it is ideal to have the same plating for both the male & female contacts. This would avoid some microscopic current at the interface.
For durability as well if you were going to plug/unplug thousand of times during the product life.
Last case, if your villa is situated next to the sea side in a hot and humid climate (let's say in Phuket as an example) I would definitively recommand to use the same brand ie. material and plating, for the socket and plug.

From an inexperienced poster who worked 9 years in the connector industry. ;-)
Laurent : good post !
to be more specific, do you believe in "damage" to the Switchcraft female connectors caused by the use of other brands male RCA connectors ? Does a connector could be "damaged" and cause a light degradation in the sound ?
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hah! can't wait to see the next trend on audigon: "only ever used with shindo or a23 cables"

well C-J, I guess you can only presume all sockets were replaced as a preventative measure.
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hah! can't wait to see the next trend on audigon: "only ever used with shindo or a23 cables"

well C-J, I guess you can only presume all sockets were replaced as a preventative measure.

anyway I would love to get the opinion of other AA members on this particular subject, and not Shindo users only.
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