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Cyril, Howie, Michael, Jeff x2, Randy, Scott : many good sense there !
Thanks a lot ! Keep them coming guys ! On a side note, my room is air conditioned so no matter the season and if tubes or SS I use inside, the temperature remains normal !
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Jerome...I also think there may be an impedance mismatch between the Ref 5 and the MC2301s which have an input impedance of 20Kohms (SE)/30Kohms (Balanced), and while the Ref 5 says it recommends a minimum of 20Kohm load (which the MC2301s provide), it usually likes to see a much higher impedance (lower load). If you look at all of ARC's amps, they all have input impedances > 100Kohms. I am not saying there will definitely be an issue but there may be one. Again, you can only try and see what you think. A good comparison if you bring the Ref 5 for an audition will be to compare the tonal balance when it is hooked up to the MC2301s vs. hooking it up to your ARC 100.2. I know the MC2301s are much better than the ARC on a lot of things, but compare the tonal balance characteristics (i.e., if any portion of the frequency band is emphasized or recessed), in one vs. the other. The ARC 100.2 has an input impedance of 150Kohms (single ended) and 300Kohms (balanced).
I remember Bob (Vintage_Tube) tried a Ref 3 with his MC2301s and did not like the combo and compared it to the C500 and found the combo with the MC2301s to be superior. Last edited by cmalak; 08-20-2011 at 10:18 AM. |
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Good advice ! And good memory too ! I did not mention my 100.2 often and now that I deleted all the gear of my sig, I'm really impressed. Hats Down Sir !
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Jerome, I think you should stay tuned in next couple of weeks! You don't want to miss the next episode of "Serge gets his 96dB Canterbury and the Shindo Masseto preamp" on our "As the world turns with the Balding and not so beautiful restless audiophiles while seeking the Guiding light ignoring All their children and trying to stay out of the General Hospital" soap opera.
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Jerome...if you stick around and watch Serge's Shindo spectacular, then just go to your wife and tell her there will be no vacations for the next 2 years, and she will not be able to buy any clothes for herself or the kids for the next 5 years
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I knew that I should have stayed away from AA !
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I will wait for your Petrus review and skip the Masseto !
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Alright who is stepping up to the plate to buy the Shindo Giscours preamp on audiogon? It's got Jerome's name all over it.
I NEED YOU JEROME AS MUCH AS YOU NEED ME
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Gryphon Essence stereo amp and preamp/dac Hurricane power cords Fyne Audio F1-10, Lumin T2, Moon 260 Transport Shunyata Research Everest, Sigma V2 XC, Shunyata Research Sigma USB and Ethernet Argento Audio speaker cables and interconnects Last edited by JohnThomas; 08-20-2011 at 03:00 PM. |
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Those who have not heard it like to lump it within the context of other equipment, or what they have heard other tube gear sound like. They assume Shindo will be more or less the same. It's not. But, like I mentioned earlier, starting with a preamp is really the way to go. Oh, btw, to enjoy HT sources, your processor would connect through the Shindo AUX input and you raise volume control to 12~ noon(exact position will be determined with your HT setup sound generator profiles.) Currently, you probably press a bypass button, compared to switching to an AUX input and turning the knob to twelve noon, if you used Shindo. Not quite as elegant as to what you are used to, but for many of my customers works seamlessly. Remote, well, you could always hit 'pause' on the cd player if you needed to 'mute' the system quickly. Quote:
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I'm sure the AR preamp you own is very good, indeed. I do like their products! Yes, for some, the feature set of the AR will completely negate any possibility of considering a Shindo preamp. Most people, though, never use half of the bells and whistles most components have now a days. But, respectfully, they are so very different, and can't be compared apples to apples. But, I would like you to hear one at some point - A Shindo pre, that is. For example, the Monbrison preamp has been in production since 1996. The Giscours around 1986!~. The Evolutionary changes aside, there are few companies that can say that about one of their flagship products. It's a highly evolved design - not changed drastically every 12 months like other companies, to maintain market share. Proof is in the listening. I love the fact you desire Shindo and want to appreciate some of this designs. 2 x As they say, 'the shortest answer is doing'. Perhaps you need to try it and see how it goes - but my advice above still stands regarding the preamp. Sincerely, -Matt |
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