180 gram lp's - Are they better?

[ronenash]

Another thing to keep in mind is the heavier the vinyl the more static it can hold. Heavier LPs tend to hold more static and thus require the frequent use of an anti static gun.

[antipop]

Originally Posted by turntable

I find more 180gm vinyl is warped than any of my 120gm vinyl.

Agree. I'm more often disappointed with new release than with older ones.

180gm needs a much longer time to cool and most company don't leave them enough so they are more warped.

I've even had one (brand new unopened) where it would make the needle jump !

[Myles B. Astor]

Originally Posted by antipop

Agree. I'm more often disappointed with new release than with older ones.

180gm needs a much longer time to cool and most company don't leave them enough so they are more warped.

I've even had one (brand new unopened) where it would make the needle jump !

From which companies are we talking about?

[Myles B. Astor]

Originally Posted by Antonmb

There is no simple blanket answer. There are a lot of really great sounding 180 and 200g reissues out there from labels like MoFi, Classic, Pure Pleasure, Analogue Productions, Etc. These are analog, not digital reissued on vinyl (there are those too, but they're a scam for the gullible). The quality of the vinyl itself and the thickness can make a difference, but the mastering, the recording, and the pressing are also critical components in the chain. There are plenty of crappy sounding 180g albums out there, but there are also many truly great sounding ones as well, just as there are many great and many crappy original issues. Try some pressed in the late 70s during the oil shortage that are on vinyl so thin you can flop them back and forth in your hands to make sound effects. You can hear the thin vinyl there for sure, usually in the form of compressed, flat sound.

+1

A crappy sounding recording will sound crappy whether on Dynawarp or 200 g vinyl

Probably on the list of things you've presented, the vinyl quality probably comes last. We can also add the type of vinyl used in the pressing too eg. there are different formulations out there.

[antipop]

Originally Posted by Myles B. Astor

From which companies are we talking about?

Not MoFi, I only had good results from them.

From the back of my mind, Ziggy Stardust - 40th anniversary warped, primus sailing the sea of cheese warped, ... i'll post a complete list later but it's quite long.

The worst was from Blue Note :
http://www.discogs.com/Solomon-Ilori...elease/2071381

[George Prentice]

I have had very mixed results. I have had bad 180 and 200's and good ones. I recently got three new Blue Note reissues that are spectacular, $10 each. I now find reviews before I buy a thick one. Not so much with the $10 varieties.

[Josquin des Prez]

I am more concerned about the quality of source, mastering and the mastering chain.

As long as the vinyl is good quality and not noisy I don't get too caught up in whether its 180g, 200g or whatever. Most new reissues are 180g or 200g and I have a lot of these (several hundred). I still buy a lot of older used classical too and much of that is on thinner vinyl. It can sound just as good or just as bad as new thick vinyl.

[NOLG4EVR]

Originally Posted by Josquin des Prez

I am more concerned about the quality of source, mastering and the mastering chain. As long as the vinyl is good quality and not noisy I don't get too caught up in whether its 180g, 200g or whatever. Most new reissues are 180g or 200g and I have a lot of these (several hundred). I still buy a lot of older used classical too and much of that is on thinner vinyl. It can sound just as good or just as bad as new thick vinyl.

I completely agree with you. I don't concern myself with is it 180 or 200 gram at all. I have so many great recordings on thin vinyl that I just focus on buying well recorded music.

[John49]

Originally Posted by NOLG4EVR

I completely agree with you. I don't concern myself with is it 180 or 200 gram at all. I have so many great recordings on thin vinyl that I just focus on buying well recorded music.

But is there anything great sounding on RCA Dynaflex?

[Antonmb]

Originally Posted by John49

But is there anything great sounding on RCA Dynaflex?

There's a use for them though

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Tony