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Absolutely. Just trying to point out that Krell is more than just mid-fi with a name and a price.
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As I noted, I would most likely go for the MBL 9008's if I was going to change amps. All of the brands we have noted are very good, and a lot of it comes down to looks and personal preference. I am not crazy about the Evo look and would choose McIntosh, Boulder, Ayre or Burmester for that reason alone over the Krell. |
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No one ever said Krell was mid-fi, I was just saying it is high priced versus some of it competition and that is exactly why D'Agostino was let go. He could not bring in the gear at competitive prices so it would sell in the numbers the investors wanted.
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I've always had a soft spot for Krell. My first "real" amp was a Krell. When they released their first processor the flagship A/V Standard for $10k-$12k back in '97, I bought that too... with a substanial discount. I had a few of their CD players too, including the KPS-20i which I bought off Agon, kept for a year or so, and resold for exactly what I paid for it. I just wonder if it's the same old Krell now that Dan D'Agostino isn't in charge anymore.
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I never said that anyone did say that Krell was mid-fi. I simply quoted 2 quotes, the first of which dealt with the idea that Krell was overpriced compared to McIntosh, and the second of which dealt with the specific price of 2 of their amps. To the first quote, I responded that the same accusation has been laid against Mcintosh. To the second, I responded that their performance was through the roof, and listed some anecdotal evidence that communicated that they could hang with MBL, Boulder, Burmester, and all the other big boys. Then Serge quoted my second response, which listed some specs and some anecdotal evidence, and Serge made the point that synergy should be taken into account to which I agreed. Then in response to Serge I wrote that the reason I had written the post concerning the specs and the anecdotal evidence was that I was "Just trying to point out that Krell is more than just mid-fi with a name and a price." By my saying this I was not responding to someone else's claim, but making a claim myself, namely that Krell gear is expensive, but has great power output and can hang with the big boys as well. I am sorry if I was unclear and gave the impression that I was responding to someone else.
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Pretty limited clietele at that rarefied level.
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There was a time when Krell was "the big boy". Their house sound changed a bit back and forth over the years and there were periods of time when it was as musical as it was a brute with many speakers. It seemed the more perfect and technologically advanced it became, the more people complained while listening to their crappy, dynamic range compressed CDs. Mark Levinson also went through some metamorphosis over the years.
One thing for sure, a great recording on neutral speakers will knock your socks off driven by Krell. The same combination will reveal many of the flaws of a bad recording just ad easily. Take an EVO 402 and hook it up to a pair of Elipsas, now you have something in between and very enjoyable while dynamically and resolution wise being very impressive. |
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