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Old 05-16-2022, 07:05 AM
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Rick,

FWIW, I do not think that raising the Aeris the net couple of inches (remove factory feet, replace with taller feet) will result in an undesirable side effect for the bottom driver.

I think it may in fact work better as that driver will have a bit more space to operate. I think this is particularly of benefit if the speakers are sitting on carpet though I believe it also good on smooth flooring types.
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Old 05-20-2022, 12:23 PM
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Mark, I think you were the one along with Ivan that suggested to get my Thor off my floor. With the addition of the additional amps I took your suggestion further. I moved all the amps forward considerably to allow the Thor to breathe. I have no doubt that Legacy would never compromise their down firing sub so this must not be a critical issue. Also, I know folks use ported speakers very close to the wall to boost bass. So, your concern about the carpet is not warranted, right? Could raising the speaker decrease the bass output?

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Old 05-20-2022, 03:21 PM
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Charles, that looks fantastic!

I do not think that raising that sub a few inches will harm bass behavior....
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Old 05-20-2022, 03:36 PM
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Charles, that looks fantastic!

I do not think that raising that sub a few inches will harm bass behavior....
Thank you Mark, but what are your thoughts about having a woofer or port close to a wall or down firing at the floor. I have never understood this issue. Obviously, if it were an issue Legacy wouldn't do it. How is bass affected when the driver or port is close to a boundary?

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Old 05-20-2022, 06:20 PM
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Charles, I think there are several more qualified people w.r.t. Wilson speakers who could comment on this much more effectively than I.
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Old 05-20-2022, 06:24 PM
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I will say that for speakers I have owned or setup with rear or bottom ports (and speakers without too), bringing that a port too close to a wall has resulted in those specific setups with overly emphasized midbass vs other frequencies and also time smearing which results in all sorts of negatives.
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Old 05-21-2022, 12:49 PM
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I will say that for speakers I have owned or setup with rear or bottom ports (and speakers without too), bringing that a port too close to a wall has resulted in those specific setups with overly emphasized midbass vs other frequencies and also time smearing which results in all sorts of negatives.
Mark, that's what I thought you would say. I agree. However, I have seen many ported systems very close to rear walls. I think this would also apply to passive radiators very close to rear walls as well. I wonder if utilizing the front port of a Wilson having this feature would mitigate this issue?

If I understand the Legacy concept, you try for the best passive location first. The use the room correction. At any rate having a room that has the depth to avoid this issue is a huge plus as well as no rear wall close behind the listening position.

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Old 05-21-2022, 05:36 PM
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Mark, that's what I thought you would say. I agree. However, I have seen many ported systems very close to rear walls. I think this would also apply to passive radiators very close to rear walls as well. I wonder if utilizing the front port of a Wilson having this feature would mitigate this issue?

If I understand the Legacy concept, you try for the best passive location first. The use the room correction. At any rate having a room that has the depth to avoid this issue is a huge plus as well as no rear wall close behind the listening position.

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Charles, the Legacy concept per se is (IMHO) just common sense. Get the speaker location right, then either treat the room or use an active room correction system (and possibly have limited treatments as well) just to be clear.

My comments were about my direct experience with various speakers I've owned and helped setup with front ports, bottom ports, rear ports, no ports, etc...It is by no means an expert opinion nor is it a truism for all speakers. It
also reflects what I thought sounded better and others would think differently in some cases I'm sure.


Now back on-topic and on-brand for the thread.
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Old 05-21-2022, 09:00 PM
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I think any speaker is affected by room boundaries even if the port is facing forward. Play some music on your phone and lay it on a counter. Now slide it into a wall or corner. The sound changes dramatically. Speakers that are designed to be on wall or close to a wall are designed with crossovers to accommodate.
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I think any speaker is affected by room boundaries even if the port is facing forward. Play some music on your phone and lay it on a counter. Now slide it into a wall or corner. The sound changes dramatically. Speakers that are designed to be on wall or close to a wall are designed with crossovers to accommodate.
100% agree....
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