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Old 09-25-2020, 01:19 PM
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Has anyone heard the Sabrina X yet? Any feedback?
Hi Serge..I spent about 30 minutes listening to the Sabrina X down at Hifi Buys last week...It's a neat little speaker, sounded VERY smooth and coherent. They had it hooked up to a pretty basic system, the new NAD integrated that's gotten some press, but it wasn't an expensive system by any means. Vocals were very smooth, not a lot of low bass in their setup. My only criticism from what I heard (and this is only due to size, not quality) is that the musical presentation was very small.......the image probably reached about 4 ft. high max and wasn't the most expansive soundstage, but again, it is a very small speaker to begin with. For what it did I enjoyed it.

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Hi Serge..I spent about 30 minutes listening to the Sabrina X down at Hifi Buys last week...It's a neat little speaker, sounded VERY smooth and coherent. They had it hooked up to a pretty basic system, the new NAD integrated that's gotten some press, but it wasn't an expensive system by any means. Vocals were very smooth, not a lot of low bass in their setup. My only criticism from what I heard (and this is only due to size, not quality) is that the musical presentation was very small.......the image probably reached about 4 ft. high max and wasn't the most expansive soundstage, but again, it is a very small speaker to begin with. For what it did I enjoyed it.

- Buck
Thanks for the feedback Buck. I spent a good hour or more listening to a pair of Sabrinas driven by VTL gear and setup properly. The soundstage was typical Wilson, expansive, wide, deep and with great focus and well fleshed out holographic images. Height wise I don’t recall anything specific or out of norm.

I was very much moved by the Sabrinas. Back in the day I spent time with Sophia and Sophia 2’s in my own system before moving on to Sasha and Alexias but man, they were fun speakers. Sabrina struck me as a very tuneful speaker that brought the bottom end into play extremely well. The upper bass and lower mids very superb with tubes and especially male vocals I thought. The Sabrina seemed to bring out dynamic contrast with ease, even from a tube amp and seemed to add lots of “meat to the bones of the music” which I like without sounding bloated or sluggish. The tweeter was superb for my taste and slightly diminished hearing range above 15Khz anyways which is quite normal for a guy in his 50’s....

Just a very tuneful, fun and easy to listen to speaker. I’d love to hear the newer X version to compare but could easily live with the now older Sabrina.

I’m not really looking to replace my speakers but one never knows
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Hi Serge..I spent about 30 minutes listening to the Sabrina X down at Hifi Buys last week...It's a neat little speaker, sounded VERY smooth and coherent. They had it hooked up to a pretty basic system, the new NAD integrated that's gotten some press, but it wasn't an expensive system by any means. Vocals were very smooth, not a lot of low bass in their setup. My only criticism from what I heard (and this is only due to size, not quality) is that the musical presentation was very small.......the image probably reached about 4 ft. high max and wasn't the most expansive soundstage, but again, it is a very small speaker to begin with. For what it did I enjoyed it.

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FYI, SabrinaX should throw a very large soundstage with properly scaled images upon it. As in similar to the way a DAW does.

If the image is 4ft high and scaled like that, somethng is very off somewhere.
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FYI, SabrinaX should throw a very large soundstage with properly scaled images upon it. As in similar to the way a DAW does.

If the image is 4ft high and scaled like that, somethng is very off somewhere.
Remember to take my comments with a grain of salt in a way.........I'm used to a massive soundstage with the height of the ISIS, so it may have been more of a matter of perception from my point of view based on what I'm used to.

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Old 09-29-2020, 11:09 PM
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Remember to take my comments with a grain of salt in a way.........I'm used to a massive soundstage with the height of the ISIS, so it may have been more of a matter of perception from my point of view based on what I'm used to.

- Buck
Dear all,

I went to listen to the new SabrinaX the other day.
They did sound extremely musical and although they are quite small soundstage was more than fine.
I have listened to the original Sabrina too but in a different place so it is really hard to compare anything.
SabrinaX, TAD-E1TX-K and Magico A5 are on my short list for the moment.
I think I prefer overall the TAD Evolution speakers because of the bass and details but SabrinaX with the size, shape and choice of color looks much better in a living room. I have not heard the Magico A5 yet.
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Dear all,

I went to listen to the new SabrinaX the other day.
They did sound extremely musical and although they are quite small soundstage was more than fine.
I have listened to the original Sabrina too but in a different place so it is really hard to compare anything.
SabrinaX, TAD-E1TX-K and Magico A5 are on my short list for the moment.
I think I prefer overall the TAD Evolution speakers because of the bass and details but SabrinaX with the size, shape and choice of color looks much better in a living room. I have not heard the Magico A5 yet.
Philoouu, I could be incorrect but the TAD E1 is 28,000.00. The Sabrina X is 18,500.00 or two thirds the price. This is a very competitive price point so this price difference is significant.

I would not expect the X to blow the original away but the improvements will be significant and appreciated over time, probably 6 mo to a year of listening. I know there will be folks to disagree but it's obvious for me: better cabinet; better drivers; better crossover and capacitors; and very importantly better looks and much lower price.

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Philoouu, I could be incorrect but the TAD E1 is 28,000.00. The Sabrina X is 18,500.00 or two thirds the price. This is a very competitive price point so this price difference is significant.

I would not expect the X to blow the original away but the improvements will be significant and appreciated over time, probably 6 mo to a year of listening. I know there will be folks to disagree but it's obvious for me: better cabinet; better drivers; better crossover and capacitors; and very importantly better looks and much lower price.

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Philoouu, I could be incorrect but the TAD E1 is 28,000.00. The Sabrina X is 18,500.00 or two thirds the price. This is a very competitive price point so this price difference is significant.

I would not expect the X to blow the original away but the improvements will be significant and appreciated over time, probably 6 mo to a year of listening. I know there will be folks to disagree but it's obvious for me: better cabinet; better drivers; better crossover and capacitors; and very importantly better looks and much lower price.

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Hello Charles

It depends where you live. Where I live Wilson SabrinaX are more around 28 000 USD and the TAD are more around 23 000 USD so I thought it was fair to compare them. You can then imagine I prefer the TAD.

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Obviously big difference in term of pricing if the product is imported or not...
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FYI, SabrinaX should throw a very large soundstage with properly scaled images upon it. As in similar to the way a DAW does.

If the image is 4ft high and scaled like that, somethng is very off somewhere.
NAD makes fine amps, but my guess is that they are what's off with Buck's experience. My own experience matches PHC's. I've not heard the X, but spent a long time with the original Sabrinas powered by an MC275. It throws a very large soundstage when properly matched.
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