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Old 05-28-2009, 07:24 PM
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Default OK, I'm breaking down and want to buy a projector, what else do I need?

Hey guys:

Give me some advice....

After all these years I'm going to add video to the system. I have a Luxman universal player (older) that only has component outputs, so I know I need some kind of Blue Ray player as well....

So, I'd love to hear some advice on projectors and if I'm just hooking up a Blu Ray player to said projector, do I need a processor too and if so, why?

Last but not least, I've got room for a 100" screen, so your thoughts here will be much appreciated.

thanks!
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Old 05-28-2009, 07:27 PM
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Now your talking!

Alot depends on the projector; and your budget. Tell me more...
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Old 05-28-2009, 07:38 PM
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Not sure about budget yet. Because of my room setup, I'm going to live with 2.1 (at least for until I have the money for three more channels of Burmester...
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Old 05-28-2009, 07:44 PM
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Can't really tell you much, projectors range from a couple thousand to a couple hundred thousand.

Processors are pretty much a must too, although they aren't as expensive as they once were.

Even a good screen can get fairly expensive, especially if it's electric.

Alot will depend on how critical you are of the image. I am very picky, for years my audio over-powered my video. Now, I can finally say my video is on par with the audio.
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Analog Rig: CLEARAUDIO INNOVATION WOOD, UNIVERSAL ARM w/ Da VINCI' CART, 2nd UNIVERSAL ARM w/ GOLDFINGER STATEMENT CART, HRS-MXR REFERENCE RACK-GLOSS BLACK w/ M3X SHELVES, AESTHETIX RHEA SIG PHONO-PRE, BRYSTON BHA-1 HEADPHONE AMP, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Reference System: BURMESTER 911MK3 AMP(3), 088 PRE-AMP, 089 CD PLAYER, 100 PHONO PRE-AMP, 948 POWER CONDITIONER, ACCUPHASE DG-68 VOICING EQUALIZER, AVID ACUTUS REFERENCE SP TT, GRAHAM PHANTOM II SUPREME ARM, BENZ MICRO LP-S CART, GRANDIOSO P1X/D1X STACK, G1X RUBIDIUM MASTER CLOCK, N05 NETWORK PLAYER, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, HRS-SXR CUSTOM RACK w/ M3X SHELVES, SONUS FABER AIDA SPEAKERS, JL FATHOM F113v2 SUBS(2) SOUND ANCHOR STANDS(2) WW PLATINUM CABLES

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Esoteric/Bryston System: ESOTERIC C02-X PRE-AMP, P-02X TRANSPORT, D02-X DAC, G02-X CLOCK, BRYSTON 28B3 CUBED MONOBLOCK AMPS(4), BRYSTON BHA-1 HEADPHONE AMP, SHUNYATA DENALI 6000/S v2(2) EVEREST 8000 POWER CONDITIONER(2) ALTAIRA CG & SG HUBS, AMR-DP777-SE DAC, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, TAD REFERENCE ONE MK2 LOUDSPEAKERS, QUADRASPIRE RACK, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Accuphase/Canton System: ACCUPHASE E800 INTEGRATED, DP570 CD/SACD PLAYER, T1200 FM STEREO TUNER, DG-68 VOICING EQUALIZER, PS530 POWER SUPPLY, CANTON REF K3’s, CANTON REF K5’s, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, HRS MXR REFERENCE MAHOGHANY RACK w/ M3X2 SHELVES, WW GOLD CABLES
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Old 05-28-2009, 08:21 PM
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At this point, I'm only moderately critical. What I'm most curious about is what you get as you go up the ladder on projectors...

I've seen the Meridian that's about 200k and that's way overkill for my needs. I saw a nice setup at CEDIA last year in the Paradigm room that was about 25k for everything, electronics, speakers, projector proc. and screen and that was very nice.

Also, what does a processor do that you don't get from just plugging your Blu Ray player into the projector?
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Old 05-28-2009, 08:29 PM
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Also, what does a processor do that you don't get from just plugging your Blu Ray player into the projector?
I'm wondering about this too. If we are watching 1080p contents, wouldn't plugging a blu-ray directly into a projector be the cleanest route? I image a processor would be needed for those that watch a lot of DVDs or less-than-1080p contents.
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Old 05-28-2009, 08:30 PM
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The processor does alot for you:

Here are the Key Features of my Lumagen:

- HD analog/digital inputs with transcoding and scaling
- SD analog/digital inputs with transcoding and scaling
- SD and HD per-pixel motion adaptive deinterlacing
- User adjustable image enhancement
- Transcode Component and RGB analog HD sources
- Component and DVI inputs auto-switch between SD and HD source modes.
- DVI input accepts 480/576i, 1080i, 1080p24, 480p to 720p input formats
- Source aspect ratio selectable as 4:3, letter-box, 16:9 and 1.85
- Programmable output aspect ratio from 1.33 to 2.35
- Panamorph mode 1 and 2 compatibility
- Zoom in any source up to 33%
- RS232 interface for field upgradeability and control
- NTSC, PAL and SECAM auto-detection
- 3D comb filter for Svideo and Composite inputs
- Programmable output resolution from 480p to 1080p, plus 1080i
- 10 bit DAC for analog outputs - Four configuration memories per input
- All setup parameters are unique for each memory.
- Can correct for red or green push in a display
- Input-cropping, black, contrast, color and hue setup
- Adjustable non-linear stretch display mode
- Y/C-delay calibration.
- Primary gamut correction
- 2/5/11 point parametric grayscale calibration
- Gamma calibration
- CUE and ICP filtering
- Extensive suite of built-in test patterns
- Programmable input and output color-space
- 2:2, 3:2, 3:3 pull-down for film sources
- True 24 fps

Input configurability:
- Inputs 1-4 can be DVI, HDMI 444 or 422 component, RGBHV
- Input 5 can be Component (HD/SD), Scart (uses in7 for CVS) RGBS, RGsB
- Input 6 can be Component (HD/SD), Scart, RGBS, RGsB - Input 7 always Composite
- Input 8,9 can be SVideo or Composite
- Input 10 can be SDI or Composite (uses CVS on in6 for Composite)

- Output resolution up to 1080p for analog and digital outputs
- Sharpness control on all input sources (only on S-Video and composite for VisionDVI)
- 1080i deinterlacing at up to 1080p output
- 10 bit DAC with oversampling for analog outputs
- 3D comb filter for Svideo and Composite inputs
- 2 more DVI inputs, 1 SDI input and analog BNC outputs standard
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MX136, MC1.2KW(10) MC2KW(2), MCD1100, MS750(2) MVP881, C1000C/P/T, MPC1500, HT-2 SUBS(2) HT3F(2) WS350(2) XRT2K, XCS2K, XR27(2) XCS350(2) JL GOTHAM v2 SUBS(2) SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, LUMAGEN RADIANCE SCALER, SONY VPH-G90U 4K PROJECTOR, STEWART 120" MOTORIZED SCREEN, CINEMA-TECH SEATING, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Reference System: ACCUPHASE A300 AMPS, C3900 PRE-AMP, DP1000 CD/SACD TRANSPORT, DC1000 DIGITAL PROCESSOR, DG-68 DIGITAL EQUALIZER, T1200 FM STEREO TUNER, PS1230 POWER SUPPLY, HRS-SXR CUSTOM RACK w/ M3X SHELVES, TAD REFERENCE ONE MK2 LOUDSPEAKERS, WW PLATINUM CABLES
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MX150, MC501(2) MC1.2KW(10) MC2301(2) MR88, MVP881, MCD1100, MDA1000, C1000C/P/T, MPC1500, ESOTERIC K-01X 30th ANNIVERSARY (BLACK) SACD/CD PLAYER, G02-X CLOCK, HT3F(2) XRT2K, XCS2K, XR27(2) JL GOTHAM v2 SUBS(2) JL FATHOM F113v2 SUBS(4) SOUND ANCHOR STANDS(2) KALEIDESCAPE STRATO & TERRA SERVERS 80-TB, LUMAGEN RADIANCE SCALER, SONY VPH-G90U 4K PROJECTOR, STEWART 120" SCREEN, SONUS FABER STRADIVARI, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, FORTRESS SEATING, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Analog Rig: CLEARAUDIO INNOVATION WOOD, UNIVERSAL ARM w/ Da VINCI' CART, 2nd UNIVERSAL ARM w/ GOLDFINGER STATEMENT CART, HRS-MXR REFERENCE RACK-GLOSS BLACK w/ M3X SHELVES, AESTHETIX RHEA SIG PHONO-PRE, BRYSTON BHA-1 HEADPHONE AMP, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Reference System: BURMESTER 911MK3 AMP(3), 088 PRE-AMP, 089 CD PLAYER, 100 PHONO PRE-AMP, 948 POWER CONDITIONER, ACCUPHASE DG-68 VOICING EQUALIZER, AVID ACUTUS REFERENCE SP TT, GRAHAM PHANTOM II SUPREME ARM, BENZ MICRO LP-S CART, GRANDIOSO P1X/D1X STACK, G1X RUBIDIUM MASTER CLOCK, N05 NETWORK PLAYER, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, HRS-SXR CUSTOM RACK w/ M3X SHELVES, SONUS FABER AIDA SPEAKERS, JL FATHOM F113v2 SUBS(2) SOUND ANCHOR STANDS(2) WW PLATINUM CABLES

Library System: GRANDIOSO M1 MONOBLOCK AMPS, C1 LINESTAGE PRE-AMP, K1X CD/SACD PLAYER, G1 MASTER RUBIDIUM CLOCK, E02 PHONO-PRE, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, AERIAL ACOUSTICS 20T V2, AERIAL SW12 SUBS(2), CANTON REF K1’s, VPI HRX TT w/ SDS POWER SUPPLY, ORTOFON CADENZA BLACK CART, KLAUDIO RCM, SHUNYATA DENALI 6000/S v2, SHUNYATA OMEGA QR’s, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Esoteric/Bryston System: ESOTERIC C02-X PRE-AMP, P-02X TRANSPORT, D02-X DAC, G02-X CLOCK, BRYSTON 28B3 CUBED MONOBLOCK AMPS(4), BRYSTON BHA-1 HEADPHONE AMP, SHUNYATA DENALI 6000/S v2(2) EVEREST 8000 POWER CONDITIONER(2) ALTAIRA CG & SG HUBS, AMR-DP777-SE DAC, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, TAD REFERENCE ONE MK2 LOUDSPEAKERS, QUADRASPIRE RACK, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Accuphase/Canton System: ACCUPHASE E800 INTEGRATED, DP570 CD/SACD PLAYER, T1200 FM STEREO TUNER, DG-68 VOICING EQUALIZER, PS530 POWER SUPPLY, CANTON REF K3’s, CANTON REF K5’s, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, HRS MXR REFERENCE MAHOGHANY RACK w/ M3X2 SHELVES, WW GOLD CABLES
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Old 05-30-2009, 01:25 AM
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If you are looking for a front projector for $15,000 or less, check out Home Theater Magazine. This seems to be their nitch and do a lot of review of new products in this price range. Many 1080P projectors in this range.

Good Luck!
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I have a JVC RS2 I picked up last year...there are newer versions, I paid around the 5k mark for it. In that range I liked Sony, Panasonic & Marantz, but found the JVC the best bang for your buck, imho! I run an electric drop screen but you can save with a mounted wall type. Depending on your room, if you can control the light you shouldn't need too much gain. Once you have a PJ though, you won't look back!!!
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At this point, I'm only moderately critical. What I'm most curious about is what you get as you go up the ladder on projectors...

I've seen the Meridian that's about 200k and that's way overkill for my needs. I saw a nice setup at CEDIA last year in the Paradigm room that was about 25k for everything, electronics, speakers, projector proc. and screen and that was very nice.

Also, what does a processor do that you don't get from just plugging your Blu Ray player into the projector?
I have Paradigm speakers in my home theater and I have been happy; they are fine for movies, tv and concert music. My DLP projector is a HD Mitsubishi projector, as far as I am concerned the best quality is the diamond series. I am not trying to brag, but the picture is better than my friends Runco and it is a 1/4 the price. It seems Mitsubishi is now more into LCD Home Theater Projectors - DLP projectors and HD projectors from Mitsubishi Digital Electronics. My blu ray 1080 is plugged directly to my projector, cable box and divvx player are via component cables switched via my hometheater processor as they are not 1080

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