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Old 04-27-2012, 01:56 AM
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I took a pic for you so you can see how far the adpater/cord sticks out of the back of my Hydra 4. It's workable, but it's what I would consider somewhat "suboptimal-ish."

Better if you could just get a 20 amp Venom3; not that that's relevant in your case.

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Old 04-27-2012, 07:43 AM
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Or we could just post the general recommendation from Shunyata...

With the talk being black mamba etc I felt that Hydra HC on high voltage equipment/Hydras combined with Cobra on low voltage sources would be the ultimate low cost bang for the buck. Ofcourse if we're talking 3000$ PC's like the Zitron Anaconda then that's a completely different story... Very different price range from Hydra HC...
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Respectfully to consider a alternative. If the primary concern is price, then the Hydra HC may be a way to get in the game. Suggest to reverse the ordering on high/low voltage.

For "bang for the buck": If you can swing it (or imperatively, find a way to make it happen), Zitron Python or Anaconda to get from wall to Hydra/Triton, Cobra on amps. Then a Zitron Cobra or other Zitron signal cable from amps to speakers. More expensive, yes, but also greater benefit for the dollar, imo. The ancillary technologies are all to good end but its the Zitron technology that tells the tale; that's where the real breakthrough in reduced distortion is happening.
I am thinking the same here as Tim... I have always understood that Shunyata advise that the best cable should go upstream of the conditioner... (the Zitron circuit then effects all the cable downstream of it)... and also on the amp where current delivery is most demanding... and so the bang for the buck comes from making the most out of the best cable.

Planning to build my power and upgrade and re-use as I go. Initially I will have a cobra into cyclops then into two Black Mamba HC for the amp and preamp. I keep the digital on a separate Hydra (and on a separate circuit) on Black Mamba HC.

One by one as funded I will replace the source cables with Zitron cables. The Black Mamba HCs will be re-homed on TV/Video and the bar fridge... just kiddin.

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Don,
I took a pic for you so you can see how far the adpater/cord sticks out of the back of my Hydra 4. It's workable, but it's what I would consider somewhat "suboptimal-ish."

Better if you could just get a 20 amp Venom3; not that that's relevant in your case.


Stephen thanks for the pic I do have plenty of room but was concerned about the way the cable might hang. The Luxman gear does not have a three prong IEC plug so the power cables don't seem to be very tight so I was already thinking about some sort of support for the power cords which would seem a really good idea if using the adapter And based on all the other posts in this string I should go with the Zitron for the Hyra 8.
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I am thinking the same here as Tim... I have always understood that Shunyata advise that the best cable should go upstream of the conditioner... (the Zitron circuit then effects all the cable downstream of it)... and also on the amp where current delivery is most demanding... and so the bang for the buck comes from making the most out of the best cable.

Planning to build my power and upgrade and re-use as I go. Initially I will have a cobra into cyclops then into two Black Mamba HC for the amp and preamp. I keep the digital on a separate Hydra (and on a separate circuit) on Black Mamba HC.

One by one as funded I will replace the source cables with Zitron cables. The Black Mamba HCs will be re-homed on TV/Video and the bar fridge... just kiddin.

.... the bar fridge makes a huge difference with the right pc,definitely a game changer for me, managed to get 2 more stubbies into mowing the lawn.
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.... the bar fridge makes a huge difference with the right pc,definitely a game changer for me, managed to get 2 more stubbies into mowing the lawn.


Kev - if your interested when your 2 Cobras land I could bring up my feed Cobra (20amp) and either the Hydra or Cyclops if I have it by then and a couple of Black Mamba HCs and see the difference that all these cables make in the configurations discussed so far except just won't have a Python Zitron pc... thats going straight to the bar. Also will be able to see what the Silver Circle, MSB and a Shindo pre brings to the table.

PS Might have a some Shunyata Zitron speaker cables and interconnects on hand to check out a whole Zitron set-up as well. Let me know if this suits.

Graham

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Stephen thanks for the pic I do have plenty of room but was concerned about the way the cable might hang. The Luxman gear does not have a three prong IEC plug so the power cables don't seem to be very tight so I was already thinking about some sort of support for the power cords which would seem a really good idea if using the adapter And based on all the other posts in this string I should go with the Zitron for the Hyra 8.
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Kev - if your interested when your 2 Cobras land I could bring up my feed Cobra (20amp) and either the Hydra or Cyclops if I have it by then and a couple of Black Mamba HCs and see the difference that all these cables make in the configurations discussed so far except just won't have a Python Zitron pc... thats going straight to the bar. Also will be able to see what the Silver Circle, MSB and a Shindo pre brings to the table.

PS Might have a some Shunyata Zitron speaker cables and interconnects on hand to check out a whole Zitron set-up as well. Let me know if this suits.

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But you do realize that only the python zitron has equal gauge (9) to the Hydra HC cable which was made for exactly this purpose. The Cobra zitron is a smaller 10 gauge conductor. If you run amps on your Hydra this distinction might be important.

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But you do realize that only the python zitron has equal gauge (9) to the Hydra HC cable which was made for exactly this purpose. The Cobra zitron is a smaller 10 gauge conductor. If you run amps on your Hydra this distinction might be important.
Yes, but the Zitron has the Zi-tron specific circuit elements that are supposed to be significant in the performance of this cable. While I am sure the Hydra HC VTX is excellent, my guess is the Zi-tron Cobra would outperform it, but that's a supposition. We should contact Shunyata and find out.
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