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Old 01-31-2011, 04:08 AM
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The sampling rate is much more important than the number of bits as pointed out in the article. Higher number of bits is for editing purposes. The next question is can you really here a difference between a 24 /96 dac ie mcd500 and a 32/96 dac ie mcd1100 or is just a imaginary expectation ?
Good question David. And I will go further.
If with a resolution of 24 bits, we can't hear a difference with 16 bits, and sampling freq is more relevant, then, the MDA1000 which upsamples at 768 kHz ( and 24 bits...) should sound better than the 500 and the 1100....
Moreover, it has been shown that supertweeters have an effect on how we perceive music, although the human ear is not able to hear thos extreme frequencies. Maybe that this could be the same with digital resolution ?
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There's a lot that this explanation glosses over. It's just not worth starting a long argument over, but suffice to say that if you'd like to hear a diff, it's pretty easy to do, comparing a digital capture of your favorite analog bit of music, captured at 16/44 and again at 24/96 or even 24/192.

It's not a massive diff., but it is there and pretty easily discernible.

That being said, I've heard plenty of 16/44 done with extreme care and fully utilizing the medium that sounds great and I've heard sloppy high res stuff too.

I'm always amused when someone (usually with a pretty modest system) loudly proclaims you can't hear something....

This subject has been argued for years over on Steve Hoffman's forum to no real end.

Can we go drink some scotch now and forget about this?
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Well said Jeff and if thats a single malt you're on!

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Although it's a bit early for that here...
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Although it's a bit early for that here...
Perhaps, but it's never too early for a Westvleteren!
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Although it's a bit early for that here...
Do you mean 24 bit early ?
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Old 01-31-2011, 08:11 AM
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I'll content myself with 16 bit
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I'm living very close to the abbey, but since the beer was chosen as the best in the world, it is very hard to buy some; all sold out!
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tonepub solving the digital dilemma one scotch at a time.

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