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Need help to seal the deal
Hi everyone,
I took care of everything in my system except for a subwoofer. I need help to make a decision and purchase, planning on buying on Monday. My story: Big room (900 SF + vaulted ceiling), not treated, open space living room. My system- C2600, MC601's, PS Audio DS DAC, MX-122 (Surround), B&W802D1, HTM2D1, Klipsch Surrounds. Usage: 70/30 (Music/Movies). I am having a hard time deciding between one F113v2 or two SVS SB16 Ultra/SB4000, price is similar (I am thinking of sealed due to size limitations). I have read many threads on theses forums and understand that the Fathom is a step above the SVS but I have never heard those Subs and probably won't be able to audition them at home. I do have size limitations, the SB16's are probably too big and will hit resistance from my wife, the F113 and the SB4000 have better chance to pass. Unless you tell me to absolutely go for the SB16 instead of the SB4000- I will have to figure something out. Any help is appreciated, especially from people who had a chance to use both subs in their systems. Thank you very much for your help. |
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Need help to seal the deal
I’m not one to post reviews, but you should talk to Ivan.
I picked up two JL Audio F112’s and a CR-1 crossover. It changed my life. Last edited by Cohibaman; 05-05-2018 at 08:54 PM. |
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Thanks man, I am sure they are incredible. I just don't have the budget to buy all JL Audio or I would.
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I've had SVS, Rel, and JL Audio. Subwoofers do sound different and JL Audio sounded the best by far. Great tight bass with deep extension, a quality product made in the USA. Perfect for music and movies.
Go with the one F113v2 and don't look back. Ron
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Ron Processor: McIntosh MX170, Amp: Legacy Audio i-V7, Digital: Benchmark DAC3B, Roon Music Player, Oppo UDP-205, Apple TV 4K, Fire TV Stick 4K Max, Analog: Gold Note Pianosa Turntable, Gold Note PH-10 Phono Preamplifier, Donatello MC Cartridge, Speakers: Legacy Audio Signature SE Natural Sapele Pommele, Silverscreen HD Center, JL Audio e112-Gloss Sub Last edited by Poppyhome; 05-05-2018 at 09:14 PM. Reason: Spellcheck |
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Ivan FLORIDA MX136, MC1.2KW(10) MC2KW(2), MCD1100, MS750(2) MVP881, C1000C/P/T, MPC1500, HT-2 SUBS(2) HT3F(2) WS350(2) XRT2K, XCS2K, XR27(2) XCS350(2) JL GOTHAM v2 SUBS(2) SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, LUMAGEN RADIANCE SCALER, SONY VPH-G90U 4K PROJECTOR, STEWART 120" MOTORIZED SCREEN, CINEMA-TECH SEATING, WW PLATINUM CABLES Reference System: ACCUPHASE A300 AMPS, C3900 PRE-AMP, DP1000 CD/SACD TRANSPORT, DC1000 DIGITAL PROCESSOR, DG-68 DIGITAL EQUALIZER, T1200 FM STEREO TUNER, PS1230 POWER SUPPLY, HRS-SXR CUSTOM RACK w/ M3X SHELVES, TAD REFERENCE ONE MK2 LOUDSPEAKERS, WW PLATINUM CABLES CAPE COD MX150, MC501(2) MC1.2KW(10) MC2301(2) MR88, MVP881, MCD1100, MDA1000, C1000C/P/T, MPC1500, ESOTERIC K-01X 30th ANNIVERSARY (BLACK) SACD/CD PLAYER, G02-X CLOCK, HT3F(2) XRT2K, XCS2K, XR27(2) JL GOTHAM v2 SUBS(2) JL FATHOM F113v2 SUBS(4) SOUND ANCHOR STANDS(2) KALEIDESCAPE STRATO & TERRA SERVERS 80-TB, LUMAGEN RADIANCE SCALER, SONY VPH-G90U 4K PROJECTOR, STEWART 120" SCREEN, SONUS FABER STRADIVARI, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, FORTRESS SEATING, WW PLATINUM CABLES Analog Rig: CLEARAUDIO INNOVATION WOOD, UNIVERSAL ARM w/ Da VINCI' CART, 2nd UNIVERSAL ARM w/ GOLDFINGER STATEMENT CART, HRS-MXR REFERENCE RACK-GLOSS BLACK w/ M3X SHELVES, AESTHETIX RHEA SIG PHONO-PRE, BRYSTON BHA-1 HEADPHONE AMP, WW PLATINUM CABLES Reference System: BURMESTER 911MK3 AMP(3), 088 PRE-AMP, 089 CD PLAYER, 100 PHONO PRE-AMP, 948 POWER CONDITIONER, ACCUPHASE DG-68 VOICING EQUALIZER, AVID ACUTUS REFERENCE SP TT, GRAHAM PHANTOM II SUPREME ARM, BENZ MICRO LP-S CART, GRANDIOSO P1X/D1X STACK, G1X RUBIDIUM MASTER CLOCK, N05 NETWORK PLAYER, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, HRS-SXR CUSTOM RACK w/ M3X SHELVES, SONUS FABER AIDA SPEAKERS, JL FATHOM F113v2 SUBS(2) SOUND ANCHOR STANDS(2) WW PLATINUM CABLES Library System: GRANDIOSO M1 MONOBLOCK AMPS, C1 LINESTAGE PRE-AMP, K1X CD/SACD PLAYER, G1 MASTER RUBIDIUM CLOCK, E02 PHONO-PRE, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, AERIAL ACOUSTICS 20T V2, AERIAL SW12 SUBS(2), CANTON REF K1’s, VPI HRX TT w/ SDS POWER SUPPLY, ORTOFON CADENZA BLACK CART, KLAUDIO RCM, SHUNYATA DENALI 6000/S v2, SHUNYATA OMEGA QR’s, WW PLATINUM CABLES Esoteric/Bryston System: ESOTERIC C02-X PRE-AMP, P-02X TRANSPORT, D02-X DAC, G02-X CLOCK, BRYSTON 28B3 CUBED MONOBLOCK AMPS(4), BRYSTON BHA-1 HEADPHONE AMP, SHUNYATA DENALI 6000/S v2(2) EVEREST 8000 POWER CONDITIONER(2) ALTAIRA CG & SG HUBS, AMR-DP777-SE DAC, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, TAD REFERENCE ONE MK2 LOUDSPEAKERS, QUADRASPIRE RACK, WW PLATINUM CABLES Accuphase/Canton System: ACCUPHASE E800 INTEGRATED, DP570 CD/SACD PLAYER, T1200 FM STEREO TUNER, DG-68 VOICING EQUALIZER, PS530 POWER SUPPLY, CANTON REF K3’s, CANTON REF K5’s, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, HRS MXR REFERENCE MAHOGHANY RACK w/ M3X2 SHELVES, WW GOLD CABLES |
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Thank you Ron. I believe you, the reviews the JL get everyone are phenomenal. In my case, I am trying to determine if it would make more sense to use one F113v2 vs. two SVS subs. Will two subs give me better overall results despite the fact that the F113v2 is higher quality?
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Sub placement is important to pressurize the entire room and the F113v2 will make it easier - "Front-mounted controls make them a dream to set up and adjust, while JL Audio’s exclusive Digital Automatic Room Optimization circuit makes sure that response is smooth, even in challenging rooms." Given your options, I would go with the one F113v2. Ron
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+1. Start with one. Let your bankroll recover then decide if you need two. Also factor in a CR-1 crossover. You will thank me latter.
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If you have your heart set on going with two subs....................then get two JL Audio E-Sub e112's as they also will not disappoint you. They don't have the Digital Automatic Room Optimization (D.A.R.O.) system or balanced XLR inputs though.
The single F113v2 should be more than sufficient though. Ron
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Ron Processor: McIntosh MX170, Amp: Legacy Audio i-V7, Digital: Benchmark DAC3B, Roon Music Player, Oppo UDP-205, Apple TV 4K, Fire TV Stick 4K Max, Analog: Gold Note Pianosa Turntable, Gold Note PH-10 Phono Preamplifier, Donatello MC Cartridge, Speakers: Legacy Audio Signature SE Natural Sapele Pommele, Silverscreen HD Center, JL Audio e112-Gloss Sub |
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I think that I am going to get the F113V2 and I now have a couple of hookup questions. I will be using the Sub for both Music and Movies. 2CH is controlled by the C2600, Movies by the MX-122. My thoughts, and I can be completely wrong: XLR cable connects the C2600 to the sub, this is for Music listening + crossover set manually on the sub. RCA cable connects the MX-122 (LFE) to the Sub in parallel, crossover is set in the MX-122 menu. Is this going to work? Does the F113 have presets where I can switch between "use the Sub cross over" to bypass and use the MX-122? Really not sure how to run this setup. Thanks much! |
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