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Old 07-09-2021, 11:40 AM
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Thank everyone so much. It really is a great piece. I can tell you that the MCT connection is fabulous. If I had not been given the WEL digital XLR, there would be no way to know this. Certainly an AES/EBU with a WEL is among the highest quality connection. It's easy for me to AB it with the MCT. I can hear no difference. There is zero difference in the volume level between the two inputs. My XVX is super high resolution. There is no difference. Amazing, and very good for folks that desire to make it their main digital output. It's like saving 4K and it passes both SACD and CD. In the overall scope of things, a C1100 pre, D1100 DAC/pre, MCT500, is competitive with anything on the market, and more than competitive when you consider price. Add vibration control with Stillpoints or Wilson Pedestals, superior power cord and conditioner, and dedicated line, and you have a system that can match much higher priced systems. The important thing is to find the sound signatures you like. I like Mac, AQ, and Wilson, but there are many others out there. If you don't, you will never be happy. I kept my MCD1100 and MVP881 for 10 years: wonderful pieces and still work perfectly, though I sold My MCD1100.

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Thanks to all. Like a little kid, which for a not insignificant part I am, I've been listening non stop for hours. I really like this transport. It has a crystalline quality. If I had to describe it in a phrase: "transparency without edge". This has resulted in an additional expense: a new WEL Signature digital coaxial cable for my incoming MVP 901.

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You will have to let me know how this goes please. I tried digital coaxial from my MVP901 to C2700 DAC and could not get sound. I’m not sure if the hdmi to my receiver overrides it or something? I tried switching direction on the cable, turning the receiver off, etc. I run XLR to the C2700 without issue, as well as usb from my Mac mini. I also disable the pass thru, so not sure what the deal is

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Old 07-20-2021, 12:59 AM
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You will have to let me know how this goes please. I tried digital coaxial from my MVP901 to C2700 DAC and could not get sound. I’m not sure if the hdmi to my receiver overrides it or something? I tried switching direction on the cable, turning the receiver off, etc. I run XLR to the C2700 without issue, as well as usb from my Mac mini. I also disable the pass thru, so not sure what the deal is

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Ryan, thanks for the tip. I have texted my dealer and will call Mac. This would be very serious. My 881 plays everything nicely through the optical output to my D1100. It never occurred to me that it would not do the same through the coaxial. I looked at both OM's and the description concerning the digital outputs is identical. I also have a MVP 851 DVD player that plays the audio nicely through the coaxial output to the coaxial input of my D1100. This would be a significant change if the MVP 901 would not do the same.

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Ryan, thanks for the tip. I have texted my dealer and will call Mac. This would be very serious. My 881 plays everything nicely through the optical output to my D1100. It never occurred to me that it would not do the same through the coaxial. I looked at both OM's and the description concerning the digital outputs is identical. I also have a MVP 851 DVD player that plays the audio nicely through the coaxial output to the coaxial input of my D1100. This would be a significant change if the MVP 901 would not do the same.

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Thanks Charles...again, I am curious what they have to say. I tried changing sound settings, etc in the MVP901 settings menu along with what I note above. Not quite sure what the deal is. Everything else works, so it is strange:

MVP901 - C2700 via XLR - OK
MVP901 - MX122 - C2700 (pass thru) via HDMI - OK
C2700 - Mac Mini via USB - OK
MVP901 - C2700 (no pass thru) via Digital Coax - Not OK

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Is the particular Coax input on your C2700 switched on in your settings menu?
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Preamp: McIntosh C22 Mk V
DAC: McIntosh D1100
Digital Source 1: McIntosh MCT450
Digital Source 2: Aurender N10
Speakers: Canton Reference 3K
Subwoofer: JL Audio E-Sub e110
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Power Outlets: PS Audio Power Ports
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Power Distribution: Shunyata Venom PS8 w/ Venom Defender
Power Cables: Shunyata Delta NR (Venom PS8 to dedicated 20A Outlet); Shunyata Venom NR v10 (Amp direct to dedicated 20A Outlet); Shunyata Delta v2 NR (Preamp to Venom PS8); Shunyata Venom NR v12 (DAC and Wizard to Venom PS8); Shunyata Venom V14 Digital (Streamer and Transport to Venom PS8)
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Is the particular Coax input on your C2700 switched on in your settings menu?
Not sure. I only toggle through the inputs (Balaced 1-3, Unbalanced 1-4, USB, Coax 1-2, etc). I have the coaxial cable in question hooked up to Coax 1 in the DAC. Unless you mean there is another settings menu that I access? The C2700 is kind of new to me, so apologies for my not knowing!

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Yes…all inputs show On in the menu. I see where you are talking about now.

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Old 07-21-2021, 12:59 AM
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Ryan, I have the answer. I have cancelled the MVP 901 order. The MVP 881 is the last Mac BR that will send a BR or DVD digital signal to the D1100. Thankfully, I did not sell my 881. It's working fine. I will use the WEL digital coaxial cable (arriving tomorrow) with it and change out the Best Buys digital coaxial to the AQ Diamond optical for my MVP 851 DVD Player. I also have a set of Wilson Pedestals coming in for the MVP 851. The 851 is an excellent unit and a keeper. I think the WEL digital coaxial better sonically than the AQ Diamond optical. There should be zero difference in the picture or audio between the 881 and 901, the difference being in the processing speed of the transport. The 881 is slow. This will be my source gear for a long time.

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Old 07-21-2021, 02:06 AM
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The 881 is a rebadged Denon DVD-A1UDCI. McIntosh replaced the stock power supply but the rest remains the same which is fine because A1UDCI was a benchmark and a statement product from Denon. It has the AKM magic dacs. I believe the 881 was also the last player with built in HDCD decoding.

The 851 is a rebadged Panasonic RP-91. McIntosh replaced the stock power supply and added balanced analog output. RP-91 was the benchmark DVD player for many years. It has an excellent transport and a Chroma Bug free MPEG decoder.

The 891 is based on Denon DBT-4010 but I don’t know the changes. The 901 is a rebadged Oppo BDT-101CI with upgraded power supply and added balanced analog output.
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Ryan, I have the answer. I have cancelled the MVP 901 order. The MVP 881 is the last Mac BR that will send a BR or DVD digital signal to the D1100. Thankfully, I did not sell my 881. It's working fine. I will use the WEL digital coaxial cable (arriving tomorrow) with it and change out the Best Buys digital coaxial to the AQ Diamond optical for my MVP 851 DVD Player. I also have a set of Wilson Pedestals coming in for the MVP 851. The 851 is an excellent unit and a keeper. I think the WEL digital coaxial better sonically than the AQ Diamond optical. There should be zero difference in the picture or audio between the 881 and 901, the difference being in the processing speed of the transport. The 881 is slow. This will be my source gear for a long time.

Thank you Ryan!

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That is good news Charles. So your findings were that the MVP901 will not send signal to your D1100 via digital coax? If true, I wonder if this is the same then for the C2700? If this is the case on both, that is very strange. Signal should be signal I would think. I might have to give a call to my dealer to see if they can confirm too. Thanks again for your feedback and apologies if I took your thread on a detour

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