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Old 04-23-2023, 09:31 AM
Martin3579 Martin3579 is offline
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SCAudiophile; Hello, it is very good to meet you...

Hi,
I've put answer next to your questions

I did not experience that issue with Valor itself. A few basic questions,...

- what is your preamp (curiosity on my part)? measurements was done using usb input on Wavelet from Apple Mac Mini running REW application, full range pink noise -20dBFS

- how are you measuring the -12db difference? By the numeric display on Wavelet and/or your pre-amp or with a proper SPL meter? I've measured at my listening position with Apple Watch Ultra (I know it's not 100% precise but for comparison is enough and they were consistent through several attempts)
Valor
Wavelet 60 - 52dB
Wavelet 65 - 58dB
Wavelet 70 - 62dB

Aeris
Wavelet 60 - 64dB
Wavelet 65 - 69dB
Wavelet 70 - 74dB

- if gently used, were these speakers and matching Wavelet v2 obtained from a private party seller or dealer? I ask only insofar as your ability to ask questions and ascertain history. If they were new then obviously no need to determine that info... from dealer

- Have you checked the "manual channel levels" page on the Wavelet UI/User Console web app found under the Settings => Setup panels? Are they all set to 0db (adjustment)? yes they were set to 0

- Did you run the room measurement sweeps after getting Valor/Wavelet2 setup? After the upload to the Bohmer site, did you see typical multiple numbers of passes for each channel and did it take several minutes per channel to complete or did it "fall through the computational passes" far too quickly? yes, same with Aeris and it took couple of minutes

- after booting up Wavelet and before running the measurement sweeps and microphone captures, did you "ping channels" for left speaker and then repeat for the right channel? This is not mandatory however I like to run the mic captures after a fresh reboot of Wavelet (v1 or v2) and then pinging channels just before. Did the output from the ping channels sound normal and more or less even across all drivers? The tweeter array and concentric tweeter outputs will sound a bit higher to the ear, that is normal.
This test I haven't done but I didn't recognize differences of pink noise between Valor and Aeris just 12dB drop of Valors, also frequency response seems flat

- Any warnings on channel levels submitted for room calibration after uploading the files? No warnings

- Any error or warning messages at the end of the calculations?
No error

To answer your question, I have not run into this big difference of output.

I only use an external transport and DAC with separate preamps; I do not use Wavelet as the "all in one" box that it can be as I prefer my DACs and preamp so I am always using Wavelet with a XLR analog input.

(Are you using XLR inputs or RCA from your pre out of curiosity?)

I run my room sweeps/mic captures with a setting of "85" on Wavelet as I have with AERIS, CaliberXD+Foundation (all Wavelet v1) and Valor (Wavelet v1 and v2).

My run-time volume for Wavelet is 82.9 or 83.1 (depending upon where I hear 'the click' and change of noise floor when walking the Wavelet volume control down from 85 (or other higher levels). This has always been my setting with Wavelet v1 for the past 2 setups. With AERIS I think I was able to run with a couple tenths of a db higher (on Wavelet display). This is the equivalent of a "unity gain" setting as I utilize my external pre-amp for all volume control.

Hope this helps....

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Thank you
Martin
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