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Old 09-22-2020, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Apexorca View Post

Ok 70sMac!

I start to quote myself from my post earlier in this thread.

When Dan still was the mighty king at Krell they were built as few other brands.
The pure technical part of old Krell is a story of its own. Any service technician I speak with about Krell just love them. They often spontaniously overwhelm me about the finess of these products. The are extraordinary produced and they are built to cope with the heat and long term use better then other products. Not completely without technical flaws, but they are strong.
What you think of the musical presentation is all about taste, but in general terms, many reviewers and musiclovers that are into HiFi like especially older Krell and maybe the products coming from the time of the FPB-series are the most liked Krell models.

I have been looking for new amps. Since the late 80s and 90s there were some great brands with "all in" mentality. The sound was everything. Sometime before 2010 I believen amps reached som kind of peak. It has been hard to find new developed amps as good as they were. The prices has been sky high because the mental price barrier has been broken. So the really good amps are now more expensive than ever. Some are very good. But there are also those who are not that good. Therefore I'v been a bit disappointed over the last years. I'v been to many Munich High-End shows, other shows and demos and many perfectly built system at peoples home. Here and there it has been old amps from the golden amp era. Often sounding very good. Therefor I opened my mind and moved my focus to alder amps and started to find out how they perform compared to newer amps.

I have been using Gryphon for some years and they are very good but lack some control when playing at volymes and dynamic like acoustic instruments live. Few amps can handle that and at the same time be delicate, nuanced and with great analogue texture as live instruments are.
Especially when I play tapes with R2R (that is a source that can deliver extreme dynamics compared to vinyl ore whatever digital media you try) it was a hole new test for the system. Krell can handle that with grace as you almost never hear it.
I have never compared Krell with Dan's new brand Dan d'Agostino side by side but it, but it should be the continuation.
I'v heard some brands that are good as well but at 10 times more expensive than what you could by used Krell FPB for.
I saw a pair of 350Mc that were slightly modified and very well serviced. I just bought them out of pure curiosity. When I listened to them vs. Gryphon I was actually a bit chocked. That was when my interest for old amps really started. I had never thought they would be better in any aspect. But they were...
If some service is made they will work well for quite some time and sound fabulous.

I have also owned amps from Krell Evolution-serie. They are also good but I like the FPB-sound more. It's more fun to listen to FPB. Evo is powerfull but the sound is a bit to dry and grayish due to mys taste.

I also heard older big amps from Mark Levinson No:33 H Monos 150 watt that are great. It's just one example of many.
But almost no one can compare to Krell ingeneral and Krell FPB. Let's look at the stereo amp fpb 400cx. It's at least 400 watt-8Ohm, 800watt-4Ohm, 1600watt-2Ohm (for real). So then the reproduced music is close to live music with acoustic instrument almost nothing can get close.

Dan d'Agostino never wanted the amp to use more than 10% of it's power when playing really loud. That's headroom...

There is more to say about this but I hope you get the point.

if you're willing to write a post like that, Apexorca, feel free to repeat as much as you like.

Very nice explanation about why you prefer the older Krell amps to newer, more expensive amplifiers. I definitely get your point loud and clear.
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