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Maks 08-16-2019 08:18 PM

Klaudio is out of the RCM business
 
I just got an email, they're calling it quits on their RCMs, but will still honor warranty and will service them as long as possible. I might pick up some spare parts, even though I currently own 2 of the units. As someone who started with a Spin Clean, went on to an Okki Nokki and finally found nirvana with the Klaudio it's sad news. No offense to those who own other RCMs, but the Klaudio is top notch.

Masterlu 08-16-2019 08:26 PM

Agreed... I just didn’t have time to post about this. :sigh:

mikel 08-16-2019 10:50 PM

Peter is a local friend here in the Seattle area, and was at my room for a listening session about a month ago. super passionate guy and loves our hobby. he did not mention this move to me, but there were 10 others in our session that night.

i was one of the first to own his RCM and it's been a great product for me over the years. i always marveled at how well made it was and wondered how he could afford to sell it at a reasonable price. the answer, obviously, is he could not.

i wish Peter the best and thank him for all he has contributed to the hobby. if this was a stress for him i hope that this removes that stress.

i love my KLaudio RCM.

Masterlu 08-16-2019 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikel (Post 976417)
Peter is a local friend here in the Seattle area, and was at my room for a listening session about a month ago. super passionate guy and loves our hobby. he did not mention this move to me, but there were 10 others in our session that night.

i was one of the first to own his RCM and it's been a great product for me over the years. i always marveled at how well made it was and wondered how he could afford to sell it at a reasonable price. the answer, obviously, is he could not.

i wish Peter the best and thank him for all he has contributed to the hobby. if this was a stress for him i hope that this removes that stress.

i love my KLaudio RCM.

Amen... me too!

cleeds 08-17-2019 09:22 AM

Ivan - should we be stocking up on any replacement parts? I sure want to keep my Klaudio RCM running for many years!

Masterlu 08-17-2019 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cleeds (Post 976464)
Ivan - should we be stocking up on any replacement parts? I sure want to keep my Klaudio RCM running for many years!

I am doing just that! :ok:

I’m probably going to also buy out their remaining inventory.

thughes 08-17-2019 09:38 AM

What replacement parts should we be looking for?

Masterlu 08-17-2019 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thughes (Post 976472)
What replacement parts should be looking for?

I’m all over this; and will post the answer here as soon as I get it. :thumbsup:

jonj 08-17-2019 10:26 AM

I received the same email this morning. Very sad the hear. Like others, I think the Klaudio RCM is the best available.

cleeds 08-17-2019 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Masterlu (Post 976476)
I’m all over this; and will post the answer here as soon as I get it. :thumbsup:

Thanks, Ivan!

Masterlu 08-17-2019 10:38 AM

jonj... Welcome to AA! :wave:

mtroo 08-17-2019 12:58 PM

Watching this closely. I have been very happy with my unit. A back up unit may be in order.

Maks 08-17-2019 01:56 PM

I had the original reservoir plug go bad on my first unit, when I got the replacement I saw that it was slightly redesigned but a backup there wouldn't hurt. I'll wait to see what kind of stock Ivan ends up purchasing.

Masterlu 08-17-2019 02:32 PM

Like everyone else that owns one, I love mine. Rest assured that I will stock up on all parts that may go bad in the future. The Ultrasonic Transducers are the most expensive, and I’ll buy all they allow me to.

I checked my order history; and surprisingly have sold well over 120 of these since they were introduced.

cmarin 08-17-2019 10:12 PM

I was one of the 120 that previously bought a KLAudio RCM from Ivan.

Maks 08-17-2019 10:26 PM

Judging by the sales in 24 hours, Klaudio is the new Oppo :) The new owners are going to love their RCMs. No sponges to replace, no liquid concoctions to worry about. Just drop a record in, wait a few minutes and it is ready to play.

Mikado463 08-19-2019 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thughes (Post 976472)
What replacement parts should we be looking for?

not sure about parts but this unit is starting to get some praise .............

https://degritter.com

folks claim a better filtration of the dirty water

Masterlu 08-19-2019 04:42 PM

Klaudio parts moving forward
 
I heard back from Klaudio today regarding parts for service in the future;

“Transducers aren't generally serviceable by customers. They require a specific heating/epoxy/sealing process with the wash basin rubber and mounting plates. The transducers rarely fail, though, it'd more likely a driver board, power supply, or other electronics issue.

We've stocked-up what should be a good amount of spare parts to continue service for awhile, but with the expectation of covering existing customers and warranties on the remaining units ourselves. We'd probably need to limit purchases by dealers looking to keep inventory so we'll have enough to last.”

Maks 08-19-2019 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikado463 (Post 976767)
not sure about parts but this unit is starting to get some praise .............

https://degritter.com

folks claim a better filtration of the dirty water

I recall seeing that one, it certainly looks better than the Kirmuss unit which looks like a Fisher Price My First RCM. I wonder if VPI will ever get into the ultrasonic game, we know they're not going to close up shop in 6 months.

Mikado463 08-20-2019 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maks (Post 976839)
I recall seeing that one, it certainly looks better than the Kirmuss unit which looks like a Fisher Price My First RCM. I wonder if VPI will ever get into the ultrasonic game, we know they're not going to close up shop in 6 months.

not to mention it has better pricing .....

tima 08-20-2019 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikado463 (Post 976767)
not sure about parts but this unit is starting to get some praise .............

https://degritter.com

folks claim a better filtration of the dirty water

Do you know the particle size of the Degritter filter?

Mikado463 08-20-2019 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tima (Post 976929)
Do you know the particle size of the Degritter filter?

no I do not

Masterlu 11-28-2019 07:24 PM

Klaudio is still alive and well
 
Just wanted everyone to know that Klaudio has not stopped manufacturing, and selling their RCM despite their announcement over the Summer.

I have been selling them consistently, and the next new batch is due to arrive on 12/9.

Maks 11-29-2019 04:14 PM

That's good news! It is an amazing product.

Masterlu 12-11-2019 06:52 PM

The very last batch of New Klaudio RCM’s is due in tomorrow.

Masterlu 01-22-2020 06:44 PM

Update: there will be no more new Klaudio RCM’s. :sigh:

rclop 01-22-2020 07:15 PM

Look at Clear Audios record cleaning machines. They are expensive but they are the best and they have been around for a long time.

Weirdcuba 01-22-2020 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rclop (Post 993182)
Look at Clear Audios record cleaning machines. They are expensive but they are the best and they have been around for a long time.



I bought one of their competitors. I don’t regret the purchase as it works well thus far, but wish I had gone with a clear audio product. Reliable.

Formerly YB-2 01-23-2020 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weirdcuba (Post 993184)
I bought one of their competitors. I don’t regret the purchase as it works well thus far, but wish I had gone with a clear audio product. Reliable.

My Clearaudio SM Pro keeps me from purchasing an ultra-sonic. Maybe some day...........

Maks 02-01-2020 09:46 PM

Doing a session with my Klaudio right now. I'm cleaning up some 30+ year old scores I got from Discogs. What a great machine, it's a shame they couldn't turn a profit off these. Pop the record in, come back a few minutes later and you're good to go. Couldn't be easier.

Powdermonkey 01-16-2021 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmarin (Post 976552)
I was one of the 120 that previously bought a KLAudio RCM from Ivan. I have two now and willing to sell the extra one to anyone still interested after Ivan sells his last available one. Send me a PM if interested. Thanks

Any chance you still have it? It’s only been 1.5 years!!

tennisod 05-01-2022 10:43 PM

Hello
I just wanted to hear your take on in the issue I have with my Klaudio.
I just recently purchased it almost unused Klaudio but I have an issue with cleaning that leaves tiny Scuffs on the surface particularly on the side where the light is. It seems like it leaves scuffs after spinning. It is so obvious and unfortunate to see this on brand new records.
Would you comment on that please?
Thanks
Peter

Maks 05-02-2022 10:11 PM

I would contact Klaudio, their service is excellent.

cleeds 05-03-2022 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tennisod (Post 1059814)
... I just recently purchased it almost unused Klaudio but I have an issue with cleaning that leaves tiny Scuffs on the surface particularly on the side where the light is. It seems like it leaves scuffs after spinning. It is so obvious and unfortunate to see this on brand new records.
Would you comment on that please? ...

I second the motion to contact Klaudio for service. They'll take care of it.

Fbgbill 05-09-2022 09:03 AM

Just curious but I see a newer model of the Klaudio for sale. Is Klaudio still in business or did someone buy the business and is building units again.

cleeds 05-09-2022 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fbgbill (Post 1060195)
... I see a newer model of the Klaudio for sale. Is Klaudio still in business or did someone buy the business and is building units again.

I believe it's a new model and that Klaudio remains under the same ownership.

Maks 05-09-2022 09:37 AM

Same company AFAIK, they also sell tonearms. The new unit has some improvements over prior units, there's a thread about them.

tima 05-09-2022 09:33 PM

KLAudio is back with a new RCM: the KD-CLN-LP200T.Looks like it continues to be made in Korea.

$6000 available at Acoustic Sounds who is the distributor. Sounds like AS had a hand in returning KL to the marketplace.

Https://store.acousticsounds.com/c/8...eaning_Machine

There is also the KLA LP Loader which works with the LP200T. This lets you process 5 records in succession. $3080

https://store.acousticsounds.com/d/1...eaning_Machine

A noise isolation box will be available similar to the original.* Reminds me of dot-matrix printers.

-- The new LP200T looks physically robust. Something is made of it having "200W total ultrasonic cleaning power". Not sure how this translates in effectiveness for this particular machine because tank volume is not specified. (The Elmasonic P120H tank operates at 330W (~100W/gallon) with peak power of 1320W.)

-- KL/AS does not say transducer frequency. Iirc the orginal operated at 40Hz. If this new model had dual frequency you bet it would be advertised.

-- A cooling unit (fan) is an option to maintain water temperature.* Cooling unit kicks in when water temp reaches 35°C.* A nice feature.

-- Includes an external water pump and filter. We are not given any information about the filter.

-- Wash and dry cycles independently adjustable 0-5 minutes.

-- Water supply available via an external tank with a filter. This looks like a plus for easier tank changing.

This new model retains what imo is the original's basic weakness - it does not allow the use of anything beside water..* Ultrasonic action alone is effective, but to get a record really clean some chemistry is needed to lower surface tension and gain some detergency - or so says my years of experience with a variety of record cleaning methods.

I was surprised the manufacturer states: Fill the reservoir with tap or bottled drinking water to about 75-90%. Distilled water is not recommended, because the electrical conductivity may be too low for the cleaner to begin the wash cycle.

The original KLAudio machine had many fans.I suspect this new machine will be successful although it now has more marketplace competition than previously.


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