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paul1 07-17-2013 05:52 AM

Simaudio 650 seem close to mcd1100
 
Hi guys what are your thoughts about this Moon 650d it seems just as good spec as the mac and $3.5k cheaper?

I had a demo sounds nice.
What are your thoughts?

raidho 07-17-2013 08:01 AM

Hi paul1,

the Moon 650Dac or maybe the 750Dac is amazing! for me the mcd1100 have no change.


no doubt.
regards style

paul1 07-18-2013 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raidho (Post 513111)
Hi paul1,

the Moon 650Dac or maybe the 750Dac is amazing! for me the mcd1100 have no change.

no doubt.
regards style

I am beginning to think this too.

jdandy 07-18-2013 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paul1 (Post 513103)
Hi guys what are your thoughts about this Moon 650d it seems just as good spec as the mac and $3.5k cheaper?

I had a demo sounds nice.
What are your thoughts?

paul1.......Both of the Simaudio Moon 650d and 750d DAC/trnasports are gorgeous looking players for sure. The 650 retails in the U.S. for $8,000.00 and the 750 retails for $12,000.00. I'm not sure where you came up with the $3500.00 difference between the Moon 650 and the McIntosh MCD1100 ($10,000.00) unless McIntosh's most recent price increase brought the retail price to $11,500.00.

The Moon 650 uses the ESS ES9016 DAC. That's the same DAC McIntosh uses in their new $2500 D100 DAC/preamp. The Moon 750 and the MCD1100 both use the ESS ES9018S DAC. There will be some performance differences between the two DAC's. If the MCD1100 is still retailing at $10K, then the Simaudio Moon 750 equivalent at $12K puts it $2K over the Mac product and doesn't support SACD.

Looking at the published specifications on both Moon DAC's, they appear to be fabulous performers, but before you make a purchase you should spend time with familiar music auditioning Moon and Mac. I owned two MCD1100 players, one each in two separate systems, and loved them. The MCD1100 is an SACD/CD/DAC. The Moon 650d and 750d are CD/DAC's only. The common ground isn't exactly as clear as it initially appears between the Moon 650d and the McIntosh MCD1100.

paul1 07-20-2013 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdandy (Post 513562)

paul1.......Both of the Simaudio Moon 650d and 750d DAC/trnasports are gorgeous looking players for sure. The 650 retails in the U.S. for $8,000.00 and the 750 retails for $12,000.00. I'm not sure where you came up with the $3500.00 difference between the Moon 650 and the McIntosh MCD1100 ($10,000.00) unless McIntosh's most recent price increase brought the retail price to $11,500.00.

The Moon 650 uses the ESS ES9016 DAC. That's the same DAC McIntosh uses in their new $2500 D100 DAC/preamp. The Moon 750 and the MCD1100 both use the ESS ES9018S DAC. There will be some performance differences between the two DAC's. If the MCD1100 is still retailing at $10K, then the Simaudio Moon 750 equivalent at $12K puts it $2K over the Mac product and doesn't support SACD.

Looking at the published specifications on both Moon DAC's, they appear to be fabulous performers, but before you make a purchase you should spend time with familiar music auditioning Moon and Mac. I owned two MCD1100 players, one each in two separate systems, and loved them. The MCD1100 is an SACD/CD/DAC. The Moon 650d and 750d are CD/DAC's only. The common ground isn't exactly as clear as it initially appears between the Moon 650d and the McIntosh MCD1100.

Jdany......
Sim audio 650d here in Australia is 10k MCD 500 9.5k mcd1100 13200k
I would love the 1100 it just seemed the moon was close for a lot less.
I mean I have a mc452 and would love to get a mcd1100 it just a bit to much I feel here is Australia for my mind.

jdandy 07-20-2013 06:54 PM

Paul.......I neglected to look to see where you were located. No doubt about it, McIntosh prices are stout down under.


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