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70sMac 01-06-2021 09:49 PM

Go You Reds!
 
Any LFC fans out there? :scratch2:

akitared 01-06-2021 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 70smac (Post 1028485)
any lfc fans out there? :scratch2:



ynwa
jft 96

70sMac 01-07-2021 01:39 AM

Ynwa
 
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Originally Posted by akitared (Post 1028488)
ynwa
jft 96

I've been watching them since I was first stationed there in the summer of '86, and, yes I was over there when all of those poor Scousers were herded into those pens. To this day, I've never seen a worse thing happen to so many people who gathered simply to support their home team.

JFT 96

akitared 01-07-2021 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 70sMac (Post 1028498)
I've been watching them since I was first stationed there in the summer of '86, and, yes I was over there when all of those poor Scousers were herded into those pens. To this day, I've never seen a worse thing happen to so many people who gathered simply to support their home team.



JFT 96



I am from the UK originally prior to moving to Canada, The recent inquiries and outcomes are quite damming on the way Hillsborough was handled. Will not bring the people back but some closure for the families. I have a close affliction with the city of Liverpool and have supported the Reds since 1979 much to the chagrin of my family [emoji12]

radio times 01-07-2021 01:23 PM

Neither of my teams are in the premier league,but I like both LFC and Arsenal.

70sMac 01-08-2021 02:19 AM

LFC's finest left-winger
 
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Originally Posted by akitared (Post 1028506)
I am from the UK originally prior to moving to Canada, The recent inquiries and outcomes are quite damming on the way Hillsborough was handled. Will not bring the people back but some closure for the families. I have a close affliction with the city of Liverpool and have supported the Reds since 1979 much to the chagrin of my family [emoji12]

Akitared.....Well, then you'll remember, fondly I hope, when Digger Barnes was brought over from Watford FC in '87. Once he was on the left, the Reds became a force that I don't think I've seen equaled since. I mean, I certainly hope that Messieurs Beardsley and Aldridge send him a Christmas card every year -- because he made those two look better than I believe they actually were. I mean, if Mo Salah and Co. could get that kind of service, the Reds would become the dynasty they once were in a heartbeat!

John Barnes, the best left-winger I've ever had the pleasure of watching. Perhaps my fondest memories of LFC were during his time in LFC red... :D

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John49 01-08-2021 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by radio times (Post 1028511)
Neither of my teams are in the premier league,but I like both LFC and Arsenal.



Boo

COYS!

akitared 01-08-2021 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 70sMac (Post 1028576)
Akitared.....Well, then you'll remember, fondly I hope, when Digger Barnes was brought over from Watford FC in '87. Once he was on the left, the Reds became a force that I don't think I've seen equaled since. I mean, I certainly hope that Messieurs Beardsley and Aldridge send him a Christmas card every year -- because he made those two look better than I believe they actually were. I mean, if Mo Salah and Co. could get that kind of service, the Reds would become the dynasty they once were in a heartbeat!



John Barnes, the best left-winger I've ever had the pleasure of watching. Perhaps my fondest memories of LFC were during his time in LFC red... :D



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Barnes is one of my all time fave reds, Beardsley was seriously underrated. The overall creative playmakers back then would walk into the team today, even Bobby would thrive in front of goal with that level of service

70sMac 01-08-2021 02:48 PM

Let's open up the game!
 
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Originally Posted by akitared (Post 1028600)
Barnes is one of my all time fave reds, Beardsley was seriously underrated. The overall creative playmakers back then would walk into the team today, even Bobby would thrive in front of goal with that level of service

Absolutely, akitared! In my opinion, Herr Jurgen doesn't presently have the kind of players that can effectively open up a defense like Barnesy could...and, let's be honest here, even when someone was in front of John Barnes, he had the skills to get around them.

The point is that we don't have those kind of threats right now, so defenses are simply camping out in the final third and hoping for the Reds' defense to make a mistake -- and without defensive players like Virgil back there, that's highly likely. In other words, the present game plan being adopted by opposing managers is to go for the pseudo-Italian strategy of a super-tight defense and play for either a tie or a low-scoring win. It's a boring style of play, but it's been very effective, thus far, this season. I mean, as of late, we've either tied with or been beaten by teams that can barely stay in the EPL, so something's definitely gone wrong. :yes:

70sMac 01-08-2021 03:20 PM

Back in the day
 
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Originally Posted by John49 (Post 1028580)
Boo

COYS!

I saw Tottenham play LFC at White Hart Lane back in the Hoddle, Waddle, Ardiles and Gazza days. Hell, I even bought one of those yellow HOLSTEN away jerseys when I was there for a match. They were probably my second team, back then, but I'm not as crazy about the team being focused around one player -- as it has been for years now. They seem very one-dimensional these days and, sorry to the Spurs faithful, but I don't think that "The Special One" is a long term solution.

akitared 01-10-2021 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 70sMac (Post 1028619)
Absolutely, akitared! In my opinion, Herr Jurgen doesn't presently have the kind of players that can effectively open up a defense like Barnesy could...and, let's be honest here, even when someone was in front of John Barnes, he had the skills to get around them.

The point is that we don't have those kind of threats right now, so defenses are simply camping out in the final third and hoping for the Reds' defense to make a mistake -- and without defensive players like Virgil back there, that's highly likely. In other words, the present game plan being adopted by opposing managers is to go for the pseudo-Italian strategy of a super-tight defense and play for either a tie or a low-scoring win. It's a boring style of play, but it's been very effective, thus far, this season. I mean, as of late, we've either tied with or been beaten by teams that can barely stay in the EPL, so something's definitely gone wrong. :yes:



This right here is spot on, Klopp himself must realize that the lower tier teams know they cannot play open football agains us, thus, they employ a low block and hope for a chance knowing we are somewhat complacent in defence without VVD.

There were high hopes for Naby Kieta to be unable to unlock stubborn defences just as Coutinio was able to do, alas, injuries have not allowed him to impose himself on the team and style of play, further compounded by Thiago injury. Hopefully Thiago will be the key, We are still in a great position so long as we obtain a quality defender this month.

We live with hope in our hearts. YNWA

70sMac 01-10-2021 05:07 PM

Ynwa
 
akitared..... I haven't seen Thiago play enough to form an opinion about how he might benefit our dear Reds. Although he's occasionally shown some spark, I'm not too sure about how well Naby Keita will fit into the big Klopp picture. I have seen Diogo Jota enough, on the other hand, and he seems to be a nice creative addition to the roster. What are your thoughts on him?

Regardless, we need VVD healthy and back there "escorting" the opposition away from Becker's 6-yard box. He is definitely the finest acquisition of the LFC Klopp-era. :yes:

akitared 01-10-2021 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 70sMac (Post 1028867)
akitared..... I haven't seen Thiago play enough to form an opinion about how he might benefit our dear Reds. Although he's occasionally shown some spark, I'm not too sure about how well Naby Keita will fit into the big Klopp picture. I have seen Diogo Jota enough, on the other hand, and he seems to be a nice creative addition to the roster. What are your thoughts on him?



Regardless, we need VVD healthy and back there "escorting" the opposition away from Becker's 6-yard box. He is definitely the finest acquisition of the LFC Klopp-era. :yes:



Thiago can pick a pass of any sort, extremely technical player who will thrive at LFC once he adapts to the league.

I am originally from Wolverhampton and did catch a Wolves game with my brother a couple of years ago, Jota is incredibly clever with his runs and positional play.

Quite surprised that he was scoring so freely as soon as he joined LFC, he has always had a decent rate of return, but you would be hard pressed to find any football fan who isn’t surprised by how quickly he has slotted in and the goals he contributed prior to injury.

70sMac 01-10-2021 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by akitared (Post 1028899)
Thiago can pick a pass of any sort, extremely technical player who will thrive at LFC once he adapts to the league.

I am originally from Wolverhampton and did catch a Wolves game with my brother a couple of years ago, Jota is incredibly clever with his runs and positional play.

Quite surprised that he was scoring so freely as soon as he joined LFC, he has always had a decent rate of return, but you would be hard pressed to find any football fan who isn’t surprised by how quickly he has slotted in and the goals he contributed prior to injury.

After I read your last message, akitared, I started researching what Klopp might do with the January signing window, especially as it relates to finding a bona fide center-back, so I'm wondering what your thoughts are on who might be a good choice. I know that there was a lot of talk about Bayern's Alaba, but he may be going for the paycheck at the dreaded RM. Regardless of his chasing the money, I was wondering if you had any player(s) in mind?

akitared 01-10-2021 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 70sMac (Post 1028901)
After I read your last message, akitared, I started researching what Klopp might do with the January signing window, especially as it relates to finding a bona fide center-back, so I'm wondering what your thoughts are on who might be a good choice. I know that there was a lot of talk about Bayern's Alaba, but he may be going for the paycheck at the dreaded RM. Regardless of his chasing the money, I was wondering if you had any player(s) in mind?


70’s Mac


Alaba is a non starter as he is free in the summer, we can sign him to a pre-contract this month. Bayern would still want a sizeable nominal fee for him during January as he is a first team player for them.

We have been linked with so many defenders I forget who is who [emoji12]

If I could pick one. It would be Upacameno from Liepzig I believe, he is young, technical and a great potential partner for VVD long term quality for us.

Gomez is part of the next decade if he can find his fitness, Matip has a year or so at the top level given his injury record.

Unfortunately I don’t believe the youngsters currently filing in from the reserves will make the cut at LFC long term.

akitared 01-11-2021 12:45 AM

Just seen that we are linked with Vestergaard from Southampton, I quite like him, classy player, good on the ball and in the air, with a touch of pace. Could be a great option for us, EPL experience counts too.

Just one problem;

We took Lovern from them so they bought VVD.

We took VVD from them, they bought Vestergaard?!?!

Lol

70sMac 01-11-2021 02:45 AM

Let's get Fab back to the midfield...
 
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Originally Posted by akitared (Post 1028949)
Just seen that we are linked with Vestergaard from Southampton, I quite like him, classy player, good on the ball and in the air, with a touch of pace. Could be a great option for us, EPL experience counts too.

Just one problem;

We took Lovern from them so they bought VVD.

We took VVD from them, they bought Vestergaard?!?!

Lol

As was evidenced during the Luis Suarez experiment, a player can be a genius and, at the same time, be poison to the reputation of a club. I mean, I can't tell you how broken-hearted I was when he self-imploded and forced LFC to banish him...but it had to be done. :nono:

The point is that the tough part about signing a "star" player is the baggage he brings with him. If a player can't adapt to Klopp, for example, he has absolutely no business being anywhere near Merseyside. As far back as I can remember, we've had respectable players, for the most part, so perhaps a young player that has real talent can come to Liverpool and become a partner to the great VVD.

Although I've definitely seen him play, I'm not familiar with Vestergaard's defensive skills. Is he a fairly stable center-back? Does he have VVD type speed? We really need to get Fabinho back to what he does best, aye? :scratch2:

akitared 01-11-2021 10:59 PM

It’s not the Klopp or LFC way to bring in a player with baggage. It’s fundamentally against the ethos and philosophy of the club.

Suarez truly was a mercurial talent for us, the intention was to have him play with Torres prior to Torres having his head turned. Love the mad bastard that Suarez is, a winner at all costs, alas, the way he engineered his move has left a sour taste in many fans mouths.

I personally believe Vestergaard can grow into a world class player under Klopp and alongside VVD, agree 100% we need Fab back in his DM role asap.

70sMac 01-12-2021 02:54 AM

Let's Hope for the Best!
 
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Originally Posted by akitared (Post 1029031)
It’s not the Klopp or LFC way to bring in a player with baggage. It’s fundamentally against the ethos and philosophy of the club.

Suarez truly was a mercurial talent for us, the intention was to have him play with Torres prior to Torres having his head turned. Love the mad bastard that Suarez is, a winner at all costs, alas, the way he engineered his move has left a sour taste in many fans mouths.

I personally believe Vestergaard can grow into a world class player under Klopp and alongside VVD, agree 100% we need Fab back in his DM role asap.

I hope and pray that Klopp keeps the club as traditional as it should be. I have no reason to believe that he won't but, after all, LFC is still owned by FSG -- the people who allowed their baseball team to drink in the clubhouse during a bad season -- so their morals are highly questionable.

As for Luis, what can I say? He crushed my heart like it was a Italian defender's ear. He earned the nickname "The Vampire," but he is still one of the most inventive forwards I ever saw. I mean, he was so damned good that, if he got into the open field, you felt like you you were witnessing genius...and perhaps that "sour taste" you mentioned was ear wax. :D

I hope we get a talented young player like JV back there. Under the tutelage of Klopp and VVD, who knows how good a big fast young defender could become...and the faster we get Fab back patrolling the midfield, the faster we'll start to resemble our fantastic EPL championship season.

GYR! :D

akitared 01-12-2021 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 70sMac (Post 1029044)
I hope and pray that Klopp keeps the club as traditional as it should be. I have no reason to believe that he won't but, after all, LFC is still owned by FSG -- the people who allowed their baseball team to drink in the clubhouse during a bad season -- so their morals are highly questionable.



As for Luis, what can I say? He crushed my heart like it was a Italian defender's ear. He earned the nickname "The Vampire," but he is still one of the most inventive forwards I ever saw. I mean, he was so damned good that, if he got into the open field, you felt like you you were witnessing genius...and perhaps that "sour taste" you mentioned was ear wax. :D



I hope we get a talented young player like JV back there. Under the tutelage of Klopp and VVD, who knows how good a big fast young defender could become...and the faster we get Fab back patrolling the midfield, the faster we'll start to resemble our fantastic EPL championship season.



GYR! :D



Agreed on all your points, FSG do seem to have a strong understanding of what LFC means not only for the fans, but the wider community too.

But most fans are also realistic enough to know they are businessmen first and foremost

70sMac 01-14-2021 02:52 PM

LFC v Man U
 
It looks like we won't be able to see the 17 Jan 21 match here, akitared, but I'll keep trying to find it. Perhaps we'll find a replay, so let's not discuss that match until I give you the word.

I'd rather see it later than not see it at all, and not knowing the outcome is the only way to watch a match.

Hope all is well ~ Bill :thumbsup:

akitared 01-18-2021 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by 70sMac (Post 1029273)
It looks like we won't be able to see the 17 Jan 21 match here, akitared, but I'll keep trying to find it. Perhaps we'll find a replay, so let's not discuss that match until I give you the word.



I'd rather see it later than not see it at all, and not knowing the outcome is the only way to watch a match.



Hope all is well ~ Bill :thumbsup:



Hey Bill

You didn’t miss much, to be fair I think we fortunate to draw the game as the Scum had the better chances. No idea why the attack is so impotent of late. We still have a few weeks to make some moves in the market. Upwards and onwards. YNWA

70sMac 01-20-2021 02:53 AM

Fab is fab!
 
The injuries this season have obviously taken their toll. It makes me see "red" whenever I think about how VVD was injured: with no consequences. That was one of the ugliest fouls I've seen in quite some time -- and then there was one that was even worse later in the same match!

The Reds must get heathy and, most importantly, must get everyone back to their natural positions. Perhaps, if the midfield can get back to their customary dominance, the front three can fall back into their routine(s) and begin scoring again. Quite honestly, Klopp must be dearly missing Fab patrolling that midfield on a regular basis.

70sMac 01-20-2021 09:11 PM

I was just thinking...
 
...about LFC some more, and it occurred to me that the EPL should institute some sort of rules against too many players in the opposing teams end at any one time. It reminds me of the rules the NBA instituted against the zone defense. The game became so boring that they had to mandate opening up the game for the sake of the league itself.

My point is that each team should have both an offense and a defense. This whole strategy of sitting back in defense and hoping for a breakaway opportunity to be handed to you is too basic and, quite frankly, has no place in a prestigious sports league like the EPL. Leave that sort of nonsense for the Serie A.

GYRs!! :thumbsup:

70sMac 01-22-2021 03:22 AM

Nausea
 
I just finished watching the Burnley match and, quite honestly, I'd like to have that 90+ minutes of my life back. In fact, the title of this post pretty much sums it up for me. :yes:

70sMac 02-22-2021 05:01 PM

They set all kinds of great records last year and they're setting all kinds of not so great records this year. Four losses in a row is terrible enough, but four losses in a row at Anfield! It reminds me of the days when top four in the EPL was a big deal.

70sMac 04-10-2021 11:53 PM

Nice
 
I finally got to see the LFC at Arsenal FC match. Wow, it's been quite a while since I saw them play an open offense like that! Now, let's just hope that they can turn things around when Real Madrid come to Anfield, aye?


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