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Fbgbill 08-23-2022 09:19 AM

One other thought. I was under the impression that VPI was going to bring out a lower priced direct drive version without the ring and the dust cover. Maybe they did and I missed it.

Masterlu 08-23-2022 10:45 AM

Lower priced and 2022 are an oxymoron. :D

Maks 08-23-2022 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Fbgbill (Post 1065523)
One thing I just noticed on the black edition is that the tonearm wires are not internal like on the HW-40. Wonder why. I like the cleaner look.

I would guess the arm is user removable on this new one like most VPI TTs whereas the fatboy is fixed on the OG HW-40.

FreddieFerric 08-28-2022 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Masterlu (Post 1065526)
Lower priced and 2022 are an oxymoron. :D

Amen Brotha!!

NZ421291 08-28-2022 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Masterlu (Post 1065526)
Lower priced and 2022 are an oxymoron. :D

So true, I know that the USA Inflation Rate is higher than in New Zealand, but my weekly food bill has gone up $180 & the price of petrol is eyewatering at $2.795 (NZD) a litre compared to the USA at $1.725 (NZD)

Formerly YB-2 10-13-2022 11:11 AM

Has anyone used the Platterspeed app on their cell phone to check the rotational spec's on their HW-40? Would be interested in your results if you have. Thanks.

Masterlu 10-13-2022 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by NZ421291 (Post 1065705)
So true, I know that the USA Inflation Rate is higher than in New Zealand, but my weekly food bill has gone up $180 & the price of petrol is eyewatering at $2.795 (NZD) a litre compared to the USA at $1.725 (NZD)

Ugly times; do like me, play more music! :music:

Formerly YB-2 10-13-2022 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Fbgbill (Post 1065524)
One other thought. I was under the impression that VPI was going to bring out a lower priced direct drive version without the ring and the dust cover. Maybe they did and I missed it.

When we visited with Mat & Harry this week Mat showed us the "lower priced" prototype (unfinished). He said that his costs have risen so fast over the past two years that they simply gave up as the price of the finished product had about doubled and was not much different from the HW-40. Crazy stuff.

Fbgbill 10-14-2022 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Formerly YB-2 (Post 1067378)
When we visited with Mat & Harry this week Mat showed us the "lower priced" prototype (unfinished). He said that his costs have risen so fast over the past two years that they simply gave up as the price of the finished product had about doubled and was not much different from the HW-40. Crazy stuff.

I guess again I am glad I got mine when I did.

phoenixengr 10-18-2022 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Formerly YB-2 (Post 1067372)
Has anyone used the Platterspeed app on their cell phone to check the rotational spec's on their HW-40? Would be interested in your results if you have. Thanks.

I measured the original HW40 which uses the same motor and controller so they should be similar. I measured the platter speed using a RoadRunner tach which is accurate to 3 places right of the decimal point.

The HW40 uses a magnetic ring encoder that produces 160 pulses per rev; the read head synthesizes 8 output pulses for every input pulse so the PPR goes to 1280. It also produces a 2 phase output (quadrature) and the controller can read both data inputs so the effective encoder rate is 2560 PPR. At 33.333 RPM, the platter takes 1.8S for 1 rev, but they read the encoder every second, therefore the count for 33.333 RPM would be a non-integer number (1422.222). The controller can only work with integer counts so the platter speed will be either 33.351 when the count is 1423 and 33.328 when the count is 1422. This is exactly what I measured, with the speed fluctuating between those 2 extremes. That equates to ~0.07% W&F. The software for the controller from Elmo Motion Control showed higher deviations, but the platter mass may smooth out the variations.

I also used a test record with a 3150Hz test track and a Leader W&F meter and measured similar results (0.07%).

I plotted the 3150Hz tone on a polar plot using software written by Scott Wurcer on DIYAudio:

The plot shows 2 revs (blue and orange) and a fixed marker at 3150Hz (Green).

http://www.phoenix-engr.com/images/HW40%203150HZ.png


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