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PHC1 01-26-2021 08:08 PM

Ammo prices
 
What's going on with ammo prices? Speculative pricing due to high demand or the new norm? :scratch2:

crwilli 01-26-2021 08:42 PM

Ammo prices
 
High demand has caused tremendous shortages of the raw materials - apparently primers being a major culprit.

I watched a video by the CEO of Federal Ammunition the other day. Equally important to what he had to say was the video of him walking through near empty warehouses.

Masterlu 01-26-2021 08:48 PM

Good thing I’m sitting on well over 65K rounds of multiple calibers.

crwilli 01-26-2021 08:57 PM

Should be enough. ;)

Cohibaman 01-26-2021 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Masterlu (Post 1030571)
Good thing Iím sitting on well over 65K rounds of multiple calibers.



Well hell son, you just beat me. I know where Iím camping out when Iím out east. ;)

PHC1 01-26-2021 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Masterlu (Post 1030571)
Good thing Iím sitting on well over 65K rounds of multiple calibers.

Old or new price? Big difference! :lmao:

Formerly YB-2 01-26-2021 09:32 PM

People have gone nuts (again - same as the 2008 election) with maximum hoarding, etc. Its even worse this time with all the conspiracy theories floating around. I've got enough to get thru this season but will start running short about this time next year. Its nuts and, of course, the NRA is stoking all the fear they can (don't worry, I'm a life member). Unfortunately for us end users every step in the chain is happy to gouge the next person as they rake in the $$ hand-over-fist. Compounded by the Remington bankruptcy (big supplier of ammo and the raw components we reloaders use as well as firearms) and subsequent sale of its various bits and pieces. Its crazy. As soon as anything hits the shelves of retailers, even with purchase limits of 1 or 2 boxes, its gone. As Serge mentioned, primers are up about 35% in price, or more, when you can find them. I'm on several alert-lists, but am sure so are thousands (10's of thousands?) of others. And, like last time, most of the price increase will stick.

Antonmb 01-26-2021 10:03 PM

Ammo prices
 
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Originally Posted by Masterlu (Post 1030571)
Good thing Iím sitting on well over 65K rounds of multiple calibers.



At the Cape or in Florida? Need to know which compound weíre gathering in when the zombie apocalypse comes.

Masterlu 01-26-2021 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by PHC1 (Post 1030575)
Old or new price? Big difference! :lmao:

Old

Masterlu 01-26-2021 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Antonmb (Post 1030585)
At the Cape or in Florida? Need to know which compound weíre gathering in when the zombie apocalypse comes.

Both; I have carry permits in both States.

I own 266 hand/long guns total. :confused-18:

bart 01-27-2021 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Masterlu (Post 1030600)
Both; I have carry permits in both States.

I own 266 hand/long guns total. :confused-18:


We could organise a big AA shout-out!! :banana:

(Between Accuphase and Esoteric players that is :D)

tdelahanty 01-27-2021 09:34 AM

I'm a big recreational shooter and range member. I shoot 22 mostly due to cost and keep about 2000 rounds on hand. Lately it's been almost imposable to find ammo, I just paid twice the normal price (pre biden) for CCi mini-mags and felt lucky to find it.

jayvis1 01-27-2021 09:54 AM

It's just like a drug. Users will pay anything to support their habit.:tears: The biggest gripe I have is that there are many out there (you know who you are) who already have more ammo than I could ever use for the rest of my life, and they keep buying more.

crwilli 01-27-2021 11:21 AM

I just bought a new rifle that I wonít be able to shoot until the ammo supply frees up. Not a big deal but it is an interesting situation.

Masterlu 01-27-2021 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jayvis1 (Post 1030620)
It's just like a drug. Users will pay anything to support their habit.:tears: The biggest gripe I have is that there are many out there (you know who you are) who already have more ammo than I could ever use for the rest of my life, and they keep buying more.

Guilty!

Formerly YB-2 01-27-2021 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by crwilli (Post 1030624)
I just bought a new rifle that I won’t be able to shoot until the ammo supply frees up. Not a big deal but it is an interesting situation.

Craig - what caliber? What rifle? I have some 270 supplies I'll likely never use.
My new 6.5x55 Ruger No.1 was going to be in the same position until a friend remembered that he had a couple of boxes of NOS Sierra 140gr HPBT bullets he was kind enough to sell me at a fair price. When I say NOS, they were in the green boxers with the metal tabs on the corners. That's like 40yr NOS.
Now I have to find powder. Probably $50/#.

crwilli 01-27-2021 05:56 PM

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5.56/.223.

I have some but not enough to shoot it frequently at the range.

Formerly YB-2 01-27-2021 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by crwilli (Post 1030663)
5.56/.223.
I have some but not enough to shoot it frequently at the range.

Have bullets, powder & cases, but am low on SR primers and impossible to guess when I'll find more. Sorry.

steve59 01-31-2021 10:11 PM

I went online to find 10mm rounds today and thereís almost nothing out there

crwilli 01-31-2021 10:34 PM

I can find most but wonít pay the prices they are asking.

Primers are reported to be the key constraint. Especially for you reloaders. The ammo makers will aim any primer inventory towards their own ammo sales, especially at todayís prices.

Cohibaman 01-31-2021 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by crwilli (Post 1031113)
I can find most but wonít pay the prices they are asking.

Primers are reported to be the key constraint. Especially for you reloaders. The ammo makers will aim any primer inventory towards their own ammo sales, especially at todayís prices.



Exactly the same position Iím taking. Price gouging ensues. Iím glad I ďhordedĒ all these years which was actually simply picking up a few rounds here and there when on sale, LEAVING PLENTY for anyone else every time. No more plinking with a few hundred rounds on a Saturday though. Dammit.

Craig_B 05-10-2021 07:08 AM

It's hard to decide which has been a better investment for me right now...crypto or ammo...lol.

Formerly YB-2 05-10-2021 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by PHC1 (Post 1030567)
What's going on with ammo prices? Speculative pricing due to high demand or the new norm? :scratch2:

Unfortunately, likely both. Even for those of us who reload the cost of components is ridiculous and scarce (except for primers, which are non-existent). Lots of gouging going on. Hopefully, we consumers will have long memories per the gougers. Target quality 22LR ammo is probably the worst of loaded ammo.

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Originally Posted by jayvis1 (Post 1030620)
It's just like a drug. Users will pay anything to support their habit.:tears: The biggest gripe I have is that there are many out there (you know who you are) who already have more ammo than I could ever use for the rest of my life, and they keep buying more.

The hoarders are definitely a problem. Fortunately, am friends with a few so can generally purchase selective amounts of primers at reasonable prices. The problem with primers is they are made by the same folks who make fixed (loaded) ammo and are being used in their own production with little left for us reloaders. I'm good this season and next (I hope), but will be 'out of business' for 2023 if supplies don't open up. Ah, well........ just have to head over to Scotland and watch the Walker Cup. Could be worse.

gadawg 05-10-2021 01:52 PM

I'm down to 1000 rounds for my AR so no more range time for me until ammo is available at a reasonable price again.

George

JBT 05-10-2021 03:55 PM

Gun sellers: Run on guns, ammo will only soar more under Biden proposals


https://www.citizen-times.com/story/...se/7144524002/

Yamaki 05-10-2021 04:35 PM

I am well stocked with the small number of calibers I need which are .22LR, .45ACP, 5.56 NATO, & 7.62X51.

I reduced the number of calibers I need some years ago and rely on those four exclusively.

Masterlu 05-10-2021 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Yamaki (Post 1038182)
I am well stocked with the small number of calibers I need which are .22LR, .45ACP, 5.56 NATO, & 7.62X51.

I reduced the number of calibers I need some years ago and rely on those four exclusively.

Ditto; I literally have more than a lifetime of ammo, in all calibers.

Yamaki 05-11-2021 09:53 AM

I might have to re-check my inventory on .45ACP because this thing will go through it pretty fast.

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-...-SM5g5pR-M.jpg

crwilli 05-11-2021 10:57 AM

Thatís a lot of lead down range Michael!

Formerly YB-2 05-11-2021 01:24 PM

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That’s a lot of lead down range Michael!

Indeed.........
Craig - your comment made me wonder how much lead I put down range each season (non-pandemic). Based on my 'back of the envelope' calculation I put 450-500# of lead down-range in a typical year. At this weekend's match I'll toss about 5# of lead towards the targets (200, 300, 385 & 500 meters). Here's a picture of 80 of the 400gr bullets I cast this week. I'm behind in same and need to cast another 750 to be caught up for the season. 250# of lead "weighting" :D its run in the bullet molds.

https://www.audioaficionado.org/atta...1&d=1620753791

Azbiker 05-11-2021 03:27 PM

My wife and I have continued to shoot handguns, PCC's, and AR's weekly through Covid. We enjoy our time together at the range and do not want our skills and muscle memory to slip. We continously work from both owb and iwb holsters and multiple guns and multiple targets. We go through around 1500 rounds per month with around 1000 of that being 9mm. We are fortunate to belong to a private range that has been open the whole time with a roughly 50yx50y short range bay all to ourselves. I also shoot long range precision once a week, but go through much less ammunition for those calibers.

JBT 05-11-2021 08:15 PM

Not just ammo the price of everything is going up. Jerome Powell has the printing press turning out new money 24/7. Here we come 1970s.

Cohibaman 05-11-2021 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Yamaki (Post 1038219)
I might have to re-check my inventory on .45ACP because this thing will go through it pretty fast.

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-...-SM5g5pR-M.jpg



Oh thatís pretty!


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