Originally Posted by audibleguy (Post 1062670)

Just my two cents on the ultrasonic cleaners that I and my audiophile friends have or have had;
-Audiodesk, regular, pro and pro x models, all have failed in one way or another and the support from dealers and mfg. has been poor, one dealer has told us your lucky it lasted that long (regular and pro models), also the mfg. always wants to "blame" the user for premature failures, (failed after cleaning only 50 records, failed after 2 years of non-constant useage, and they also want to charge $2000 to $2500 for a newer model after you paid $4000 for a new one). Come on $4000 for a record cleaner that doesn't last and constantly breaks down!
Degritter- we have used this machine and it cleans well, seems to be well built, and mfg. is good to deal with
KL Audio- while they may build a decent machine back when they were first in business and now, how can you trust that they will "stay in business", since they raised the price substantially and may not sell as many machines at the higher price.
Many of us in the audiophile world have some knowledge of manufacturing and quality control and should not just take the sales jargon of the mfgs., distributors, and dealers without doing due diligence and questioning these questionable machines.

Originally Posted by audibleguy (Post 1062670)

Just my two cents on the ultrasonic cleaners that I and my audiophile friends have or have had;
-Audiodesk, regular, pro and pro x models, all have failed in one way or another and the support from dealers and mfg. has been poor, one dealer has told us your lucky it lasted that long (regular and pro models), also the mfg. always wants to "blame" the user for premature failures, (failed after cleaning only 50 records, failed after 2 years of non-constant useage, and they also want to charge $2000 to $2500 for a newer model after you paid $4000 for a new one). Come on $4000 for a record cleaner that doesn't last and constantly breaks down!
Degritter- we have used this machine and it cleans well, seems to be well built, and mfg. is good to deal with
KL Audio- while they may build a decent machine back when they were first in business and now, how can you trust that they will "stay in business", since they raised the price substantially and may not sell as many machines at the higher price.
Many of us in the audiophile world have some knowledge of manufacturing and quality control and should not just take the sales jargon of the mfgs., distributors, and dealers without doing due diligence and questioning these questionable machines.

Originally Posted by miner (Post 1062688)

I have had my ADS Pro for approx 4 yrs and have cleaned approx 500 LPs with no issue at all. I try to change fluid after every 100 LPs, change/clean filter after every 200 LPs, change roller brushes and drying strips every 400 LPs. I have been completely satisfied with the ADS Pro model.

Originally Posted by audibleguy (Post 1062670)

... KL Audio- while they may build a decent machine back when they were first in business and now, how can you trust that they will "stay in business" ...

Originally Posted by cleeds (Post 1062718)

There's really no assurance that any company will remain in business. General Motors - once the world's largest auto maker - went bankrupt in 2009. The GM of today doesn't have much in common with the GM of yore.
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Originally Posted by tima (Post 1062745)

True - do you think KLAudio would get a government bailout like GM? :)

Originally Posted by Fbgbill (Post 1062749)

Perhaps if the president were a vinyl addict they would....!:thought:

Originally Posted by Masterlu (Post 1062756)

https://www.audioaficionado.org/atta...1&d=1656081938

:lmao: