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James Tanner - Bryston 10-22-2013 07:40 AM

Customer Response Bryston Middle T Speakers

Hi Folks;

I had some concerns about my 3B clipping occasionally into my new Bryston Middle T speakers at high volumes:

I received an e-mail from James Tanner of Bryston and he said so long as the clipping was occasional there was nothing to worry about but if it was clipping "with the beat" I need more power.

He was also of the opinion that the very, very low distortion of the middle T allows you to turn them up louder than normal without realizing how loud they really are.

Power concerns aside, these are excellent speakers, and I'm very impressed with Bryston's personal touch.

Class acts all the way.

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James Tanner - Bryston 10-29-2013 07:04 PM

Building the Bryston A2 Tower loudspeaker

Building A Bryston - Model A2 Loudspeaker - YouTube

james

James Tanner - Bryston 10-30-2013 08:55 AM

MEMO: To All Bryston Customers
SUBJECT: Bryston Model T Speaker Feedback

From: Rodney
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 7:45 PM
To: James Tanner
Subject: Model T

Hi James

I heard the Model T the other day At Whitby Audio...Dan demoed them for me.

My god they are outstanding.

You must be so very proud, James.

I have been swayed away from Bryston in the past but that will never happen again.

Rodney

Bigalsworth 11-01-2013 11:11 AM

Hi James I'm curious if the warranty on the Bryston speaker line is transferable.

Thanks,

Scott

James Tanner - Bryston 11-01-2013 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigalsworth (Post 546509)
Hi James I'm curious if the warranty on the Bryston speaker line is transferable.

Thanks,

Scott

No sorry it is 20 years to first owner only.

james

Yamaki 11-01-2013 10:28 PM

Oh I would sooo much love to audition a pair of these!!!

Masterlu 11-01-2013 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yamaki (Post 546795)
Oh I would sooo much love to audition a pair of these!!!

Road trip :whistle:

Bigalsworth 11-02-2013 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Tanner - Bryston (Post 546789)
No sorry it is 20 years to first owner only.

james

Thanks James, thats what I thought I just want to inform some people on audiogon that it isn't transferable.

Scott

Yamaki 11-02-2013 03:00 PM

Yeah...a trans-continental road trip! :D

Masterlu 11-02-2013 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yamaki (Post 547032)
Yeah...a trans-continental road trip! :D

A World of Audio Wonders await you! ;)

James Tanner - Bryston 11-05-2013 12:57 PM

LOL

James



Hi Folks,

We showed an new INWALL/ONWALL series of Bryston speakers at the recent CEDIA and Toronto Audio shows and a number of people have asked for more details.

Please find a preliminary PDF Brochure attached

james




From: robert@engulfaudio.com [mailto:robert@engulfaudio.com]
Sent: November-05-13 11:33 AM
To: James Tanner
Subject: Re: Bryston Wall Series

"Someone stop him!"

Seriously, I am so excited for the new products. It makes it easier for what I do to offer an all-in-one product company for all my clients because there is no better deal in audio than Bryston, both price and sonically. But rest my friend...rest!

By the way, I have an appointment to take our Bryston Minis to Jade Entertainment in downtown Mobile, AL. The owner is a great guy and a life long friend. I will be setting them up in one of his main studios as monitors. So, my next question is, with the creation of all of these new products, have you considered a powered set of Minis, or similar, for the professional use in studio recording as studio monitors? I look forward to your reply. I will also report back with pics and comments from the recording engineers.

Take care from your Southern Bryston Bro,
Robert Meeks

engulfaudio
HIFI
public house

Yamaki 11-05-2013 01:03 PM

ohhhh...so Robert is going to meet with Dan Laufman at Jade. Cool!

James Tanner - Bryston 11-11-2013 04:47 PM

MEMO: To All Bryston Customers
SUBJECT: BRYSTON MINI T SPEAKER


BRYSTON MINI T - REPORT FROM THE TRENCHES:

Very first impressions initial listening: Direct swap out from B&W 802 setup: Using Naim HDX as source Listened to progressively more detailed, complex, and wider octave ranged music, about 20 tracks, about 2 minutes each on B&W first, then quick swap for Bryston Mini T.

On lighter, but very well recorded music, Mini T seemed lighter weight, BUT vocals were amazing in accuracy, depth, and even possibly clearer. As the music moved down into the 200hz range, with some drum work, conga, and newer recordings that weren’t studio compressed speakers seemed to come into their own.

Going to some re-mastered Rock, the speakers got fuller, but seemed in my mind to be about 2 dB shy of output of 802, which I was surprised as the 802’s suck up power. (Pot was at same level). Detailed, but less forward jazz music seemed to favor the B&W…but of course we are talking cabinets that have 3X the volume, more drivers, and cost 4X as much as the Mini. So I decided to goose the volume pot a drop…VOILLA ! WOW, these things COOK! I have a few very strenuous tracks in my test run, from Jaco Pastorious, to Airto & Micky Hart, and finally Pancho Sanchez who along with his percussive works, has an organ that moves your innards.

I could not believe the output of these little speakers. Not bloated, not tubby, and as much as I tried all type of vocal, I think they might be slightly better than the 802 in this 200hz-1000Hz range. Crossover components ? Driver ? Combination ? but a hair more articulate. I tried all type of male from the Velvet Fog, to james Taylor, Mick Jagger, Satchmo, Ray Charles & more…to many old school female voices, to the newer ones like Krall of course…VERY SMOOTH clean at about 88dB, and very articulate.I did play a remake of the famous test disc from the 80’s, Limehouse blues, from Jazz at the Pawnshop, that I think I have heard 100 times, if I heard it once. the background noises, were extremely clean and articulate. Al the speech was well defined. I attribute this to the cross-over points, not effecting the critical vocal range, and what is obviously a very tight patterned mid-range driver. I am assuming the distortion on this driver is very low.

For this price, this is a grand slam of a product in the World Series of speakers !

More to come.
Wayne

James Tanner - Bryston 11-13-2013 04:21 PM

Have not got my copy yet but the November issue of Absolute Sound has a review of the Bryston Mini T speaker.

james

James Tanner - Bryston 11-14-2013 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Tanner - Bryston (Post 550519)
Have not got my copy yet but the November issue of Absolute Sound has a review of the Bryston Mini T speaker.

james

James,

I received my printed issue today, the same day you emailed about the Mini T review. I don’t think you’ll be disappointed! Not a negative comment in it. He describes the monitors as studio monitors in the best sense, and has nothing but praise and admiration for your approach to accurate design throughout the review.

Congratulations!

I hope some reviews are in the works for your full-sized monitors as well.

Cheers,

Bob Sykes


James Tanner - Bryston 11-20-2013 07:44 AM

Hi Folks,

Here is the link to the Absolute Sound Magazine of the Bryston Mini T Speakers.

I love the heading:

BRYSTON MINI T LOUDSPEAKER
Whole New Ballgame!

Bryston Mini T Loudspeaker | The Absolute Sound

james

Manbient 11-20-2013 12:38 PM

James,

Can you comment on what you perceive (and/or designed!) as sonically different between the middle T and model T? I'm trying to decide for my room which is the better choice (Attached a picture of my room schematic for reference, hope it works!). 8 ft ceilings. Anyway, I'm leaning towards the middle T, but I haven't had the chance to demo both (just the model T) and I'm curious what one gives up when stepping down to the middle T. Would the big model be too much speaker for my relatively small room? Also you can be honest if you think one just 'sounds better' than the other (in a private message if you prefer and I'll keep it to myself haha)

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James Tanner - Bryston 11-20-2013 12:47 PM

Hi,

I would say the Middle T's for sure given the room size. A lot will depend on how loud you listen to your music. The Model T can be used in a smaller room than you would think because the Sound Power Response is equal in all directions but the Middle T is a safer bet if the room tends to load up easily.

The power handling capability of the Model T is really the only benefit over the Middle T. The sonic characteristics, the crossover points and the listening window and sound power are all similar on all the different T models.

I did a show in Toronto at a dealer last Saturday in a room similar size to yours and the Middle T's sounded superb:music:

Hope this helps.

james

Manbient 11-20-2013 05:05 PM

Definitely does! Thanks for your advice James!

James Tanner - Bryston 11-22-2013 11:45 AM

MEMO: To All Bryston Customers
SUBJECT: Bryston Full System Customer Report

BRYSTON MINI T LOUDSPEAKERS


Hi Folks

Musical jewels!

That was my impression after an active listening of this Mini T model. Wow. It was magical. I've passed a wonderful 3 hours (I will have to return as it wasn't enough long) with Rick Bastedo, sale agent, Hi-Fi Specialist of Cox's Audio in Fredericton (New Brunswick).

I'm in process to buy a complete new sound system. Start from the beginning as I just have right now my Apple (computer with ITunes Library) and the Sonos Play 5 (bought there, at Cox's last year). Everything we have listened yesterday night was Bryston (including the DAC and the converter) except the CD Player. I had a bias perception against Bryston amplifier and other of your products. Don't know why exactly, perhaps some Magazines Critics in the past. Who knows?

But this listening session yesterday with some of my favourites CD and records was astonishing. Unfortunately, I don't have the budget right now to buy the Mini-T, your integrated amplifier and the converter and the DAC. So I will have to choose.

Again, bravo for this accomplishment. You have a pretty good salepersonne with Rick Bastedo, of Cox's Radio. He knows your product very well. I'm still flabbergasted by the superiority of your DAC and Converter compare to a listening with a CD. Wow. Marvellous. Indeed, Canada is going to become an audiophile and Hi-Fi product reference - A world leader in this sector Why not? Again, bravo for this so good Mini T Bookshelf speakers. Their bigger brother should be a jaw dropping experience when you listen to it.

Keep the good work!

Beno ït A. Lanteigne

James Tanner - Bryston 11-22-2013 01:30 PM

BRYSTON MINI T SPEAKER - CUSTOMER FEEDBACK

November 2013

1. SNORGY • 2 days ago:

Having just bought a pair of Mini T’s , with stands, several months ago, what I can say is that the Mini Ts play much larger than they look.
Listening to them on their stands, blindfolded, a person would have no way of telling them apart from a pair of high quality floor standing towers. If the person was then to remove the blindfold, he or she would find it difficult to believe that *THAT* came out of *THOSE*.

I first paired them with a vintage HK PM665 integrated amplifier, and I can honestly say it was, to my ears, the most perfectly matched amplifier-speaker combination that I have heard in three decades. They do want power, but if the power is available - within reason - these things will scare you before you scare them.

Simply put, these are the best "small" speakers I have heard in a long, long time.



2. Steve Michaelson - 6 hours ago

Heard these last month along with the ModelTs. The Brystons are amongst the best speakers I have heard at any price. Literally stunned me.

James Tanner - Bryston 11-23-2013 01:15 PM

Hi Folks,

I got a copy of a review in a major magazine that reviewed the Bryston Mini T's, BP17 Preamp and 28B SST2 amps as a complete Bryston system.

Here is a sneak preview:

My experience with this system (Bryston Mini T speakers, BP17 preamp and 28BSST² amplifiers ) has forever reshaped my reference and I look forward to comparing other systems to this benchmark.

Humbuster 11-24-2013 11:23 AM

Questions: Would the Middle T or Mini T be an "upgrade" from my Vandy 2CE sig ii?

The wife constantly bitches about the size of the Vandys, however I love how they sound with my MA6600.

If I downsize, I was thinking Middle or Mini T from Bryston or possibly a Harbeth 30.1
I would prefer a 3 way system (Bryston) vs the 2 way of the 30.1 (the 3 way 40.1 are out of my price range), however I have heard great things about the Harbeths as well as the Brystons.

I have a chance to hear the Brystons next week, however I am not sure they would sonically be enough of an upgrade over my Vandys to merit the extra bucks.

I understand "sound" is subjective, however opinions are appreciated.

James Tanner - Bryston 11-24-2013 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Humbuster (Post 553842)
Questions: Would the Middle T or Mini T be an "upgrade" from my Vandy 2CE sig ii?

The wife constantly bitches about the size of the Vandys, however I love how they sound with my MA6600.

If I downsize, I was thinking Middle or Mini T from Bryston or possibly a Harbeth 30.1
I would prefer a 3 way system (Bryston) vs the 2 way of the 30.1 (the 3 way 40.1 are out of my price range), however I have heard great things about the Harbeths as well as the Brystons.

I have a chance to hear the Brystons next week, however I am not sure they would sonically be enough of a upgrade over my Vandys to merit the extra bucks.

I understand "sound" is subjective, however opinions are appreciated.

Hi

Yes I agree that sound is subjective to a degree but the design philosophy of the loudspeaker manufacturer has a lot to do with the resulting sound.

Both Vandersteen and Harbeth are excellent companies but they differ from my goals with the Model T Series.

The below is lengthy but it does explain the birth of the Model T series of loudspeakers
.





DESIGN CRITERIA FOR BRYSTON SPEAKERS

If you like the sound of our speakers the comments below are relevant … if you do not like the sound of our speakers then the comments below are irrelevant.

It really depends on what you want the speaker to do. There are many different philosophies about how real world speakers in real world rooms should behave.

Do you want the speaker to beam the sound at the listener so there is little on and off axis energy in the polar response? Do you want a Dipole or Bi-Pole design? Do you want an Omni design etc.?

Our philosophy is discussed in detail below.


BRYSTON MODEL-T LOUDSPEAKER SYSTEM

Bryston is pleased to announce the “Model-T Loudspeaker System”.

For many years Bryston has employed a number of quality loudspeakers to assess our electronic equipment but we felt the time had come to develop our own reference grade loudspeaker system. The Bryston Model T loudspeaker was designed to meet the challenge of a North American designed and manufactured world class reference loudspeaker.

We embarked on this loudspeaker journey with Axiom Audio with very demanding requirements to exceed my current reference speakers. Originally, only one pair of these loudspeakers were going to be developed as my personal reference loudspeakers. However, the Bryston distributors, dealers, and clients expressed a strong interest to bring a Bryston loudspeaker to market that would be competitively priced.

The initial design was an expensive and complex active design using a Digital Signal Processing (DSP), six channels of amplification, and a myriad of cables. Much effort was used to get to a performance level that met our requirements. Interestingly, Dealer & client feedback requested a passive version that could be powered by a two channels of amplification. So, the Model T (Passive) loudspeaker was developed.

Considerable effort was put forth in new driver design, enclosure vibration analysis, crossover refinement, anechoic chamber testing, and countless hours of listening tests. Blind listening tests were routinely performed with the Model T and today’s highly regarded and expensive loudspeakers. We invite you to bring your favorite music to your local authorized Bryston dealer to give them a serious listen and let me know what you think.

BACKGROUND:
The two most critical parts of any loudspeaker system choice is the listening ‘ROOM’ and the loudspeakers‘POLAR’ response. Recognizing how the room imposes its boundaries (floor, ceiling, walls) on the speaker and how that speaker radiates its energy (polar response) into a specific room is critical to the understanding of the overall performance of any speaker and it is no different for the Bryston Model T loudspeaker.

When you are listening to a loudspeaker in a room you are always listening to a balance between the ‘Direct Sound’ and the ‘Reflected Sound’ from the boundaries of the room – this is called the ‘Power Response or Sound Power.’ It is that balance between direct and reflected energy which changes depending on the frequency radiation pattern (polar response) of the given speaker and the boundaries of the room the speaker is placed in. Dipoles, Bipolar, Omnipoles, Direct Radiators, Horns etc. all behave differently due to their specific radiation patterns and therefore exhibit different power responses in any specific room. Bryston has chosen a direct radiator approach in the design of the Model-T loudspeaker for numerous reasons but one critical reason is because we feel it is currently the best way to accomplish the correct balance between direct and reflected energy in real world listening rooms.

DIRECT and RELECTED SOUND:
The ‘direct sound’ is the sound radiating from the front of the loudspeaker and the ‘reflected sound’ is all the sound your ears perceive after the sound waves have interacted with all the different boundaries in the room. It is important given real world conditions that the on axis response and the off axis frequency response of a loudspeaker be as uniform as possible. This on and off axis characteristic is generally referred to as Polar response. The smoother and more uniform the on and off axis polar response of the speaker the better the tonal balance between the direct sound and the reflected sound will be. In other words, the reflected sound will have the same overall tonal balance and sonic characteristics as the direct sound if ‘on and off’ polar response is smooth and even. This approach also provides the optimum overall 3-dimensional soundstage presentation as well. The Bryston Model-T is a very wide dispersion design so the polar response is very flat on axis and very uniform all the way out to more than 45 degrees off axis in both directions from center to provide a very wide and even listening window.

LISTENING WINDOW and SOUND POWER:
In a loudspeaker the ‘listening window’ is an average of a front set of curves whereas the ‘sound power response’ is an average of all the curves right around the whole speaker. What we actually hear seems heavily weighted to be a balance between these two conditions. The listening windows frequency response should be very linear (flat) across the entire audio band but the sound power should fall off by 8 – 10dB by the time you get to 10kHz (see diagram below) while still remaining linear in its march down from the bass frequencies.

Striking the proper balance between these two is extremely important to the sound of the speaker. Keeping the listening window and the sound power both linear is not an easy task and is where most speakers fall down.

Typical Model-T Passive Anechoic Response

Typically there is a lot of attention paid to the linearity of the direct on-axis frequency response by reviewers and knowledgeable consumers but it is really just one curve in the mix of 64 curves Bryston utilized in the design the Bryston Model T passive loudspeaker.

PASSIVE CROSSOVER:
The passive crossover in a loudspeaker provides the correct frequency response, levels, roll-off slopes, phase etc. to the different drivers (woofers, midranges, tweeters). The crossover uses very sophisticated parts that allow for very precise tailoring and control over each of the drivers. This attention to details in the crossover provides the utmost in spatial and depth imaging performance as well as overall realism. Proper application of the integration of the drivers/crossover and box is critical in determining uniformity of the speaker’s output in all directions (power response). The crossover the drivers and the cabinet all work in tandem and cannot be designed independently. The Model-P crossover is meticulously engineered to achieve extreme tonal neutrality and is constructed with extensive use of high quality components. The result is astonishing clarity, transparency, and true three-dimensional realism.

CUSTOM DRIVERS:
All the drivers in the Bryston Model-Tspeaker are custom made. The advantage of custom made drivers is you can design the driver to do a specific job in a specific cabinet with a specific crossover. Many loudspeaker manufacturers use off the shelf commercially available drivers but that severely restricts their design options because the manufacturer has to design around the specific drivers characteristics. We have developed our drivers to be part of the overall design window and have integrated them with the crossovers and cabinet in a way not possible with off the shelf components. We use cast baskets, substantial magnet assemblies and custom motor systems in all our woofers and midrange drivers.

CABINET:
The cabinet plays an enormously important role in the quality of music reproduction, and so the engineering of the cabinet incorporates several innovations that contribute to the speaker’s stunning clarity, its utter tonal neutrality and its exceptionally realistic imaging. Another task the cabinet must perform is to allow the sound from the drivers to radiate freely without encountering cabinet edges or cavities that will diffract some of the energy, causing interference and delayed sounds that produce tonal colorations and obscure spatial information.

The Model-T cabinet is made from a high quality MDF and precisely constructed in our Canadian manufacturing facility. The cabinet was designed with exceptional attention to reducing cabinet resonances. You want the cabinet to be as inert as possible so that only the drivers are contributing to the sound emanating from the speaker. Bracing in the correct areas is critical and contrary to popular belief you can easily end up with improper bracing – too much or not enough. Everything vibrates or has a natural resonance at which it will vibrate and the ear is much more sensitive to higher frequency vibrations as opposed to lower frequency vibrations. The general thought is the more bracing the better but it actually doesn’t work quite that way. There are two things to be cognitive of in brace design. One is that you can actually increase the SPL of the “cabinet output” if you put the wrong number of braces in the wrong place and the other is that as you add braces you will increase the frequency of the “cabinet output” which at some point, even though the SPL will likely be substantially lower, the cabinet output will become audible because we humans far more sensitive to noise at higher frequencies. So measuring and optimizing at what frequency vibration occurs and at what amplitude is critical to producing as resonant a free cabinet as possible

The Model-T cabinet is shaped and contoured to provide the practical elimination of diffracted driver energy from the driver’s specific dispersion characteristics and to reduce or eliminate any internal standing waves in the loudspeaker cabinet. Less vibration contributes to greater clarity, while the absence of diffraction allows for very open, box-less reproduction. The cabinet sides achieve great stiffness by a construction of shaped panels and bracing using accelerometers to measure precise movements and bracing them appropriately to reduce resonances. This construction preserves the nuances and delicacy of the music by reducing unwanted sonic artifacts that would otherwise obscure musical detail.

UNIT TO UNIT MATCHING:
One of the critical requirements for creating a quality three-dimension image in your room is that each and every loudspeaker must be synchronized as much as possible to one another in all aspects of their performance. Small variances in performance from unit to unit can inhibit the audio systems ability to place
instruments in the proper location and create a believable soundstage where the speakers disappear and the performance fills the room with a convincing performance. We take great care in making sure this continuity is maintained for each and every loudspeaker we manufacture.

ANACHOIC CHAMBER:
Our speaker design and manufacturing facility has a very unique advantage – an on-site ‘anechoic chamber’. Anechoic chambers are reflection free rooms and are used by the superior speaker manufactures to do all the loudspeaker testing in an environment where early reflections and outside noise issues are eliminated from the measurement curve(s). Anechoic cambers are very, very expensive to build but they are invaluable when designing a quality loudspeaker. Measurements can be made showing exactly how the on and off polar response of the speaker is performing, cabinet resonances due to improper bracing are easily measured with accelerometers, driver abnormalities and resonances are easily detected etc. It allows one to move in a constructive direction in a calculated manner because it brings to the forefront many of the discontinuities not necessarily obvious with other test methods. The Bryston Model-T speakers were meticulously designed utilizing the factory anechoic chamber and then fine-tuned and adjusted utilizing blind listening tests to provide our customers with as accurate a loudspeaker as is currently obtainable.

DYNAMIC COMPRESSION:
One of the major issues with many speakers is ‘dynamic compression.” In the real world if you hear a loud (dynamic) sound like a gun-shot or a back-fire or a scream etc. there is a huge dynamic range associated with the sound. Many speakers, especially small 2-way or 3-way speaker’s are terrific for what they do but many fall short trying to recreate the huge dynamics necessary to produce the kind of sound pressure levels needed to reproduce these huge volume swings in your listening room. With the Bryston Model-T loudspeaker one of the foremost priorities was to create a speaker that could truly reproduce these real world dynamics without compression. In our opinion, utilizing multiple drivers in a vertical array was the best way to achieve this goal.

SUMMING UP:
A ‘state of the art’ audio system involves what some refer to as a “suspension of disbelief”, which means that the playback system transcends the recorded medium and transports you to a live venue. You forget it’s a recording and believe you are there at the live performance.

Our goal with the Bryston Model-T Passive loudspeaker system was to provide our customers with a superior level of ‘disbelief’.

James Tanner


James Tanner - Bryston 11-25-2013 05:24 PM

Hi Folks,

FIRST EVER --- Review of complete bryston System:

Bryston 28BSST2 Monoblock Power Amplifier - Secrets of Home Theater and High Fidelity

james

Hibbing 11-26-2013 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Humbuster (Post 553842)
Questions: Would the Middle T or Mini T be an "upgrade" from my Vandy 2CE sig ii?

The wife constantly bitches about the size of the Vandys, however I love how they sound with my MA6600.

If I downsize, I was thinking Middle or Mini T from Bryston or possibly a Harbeth 30.1
I would prefer a 3 way system (Bryston) vs the 2 way of the 30.1 (the 3 way 40.1 are out of my price range), however I have heard great things about the Harbeths as well as the Brystons.

I have a chance to hear the Brystons next week, however I am not sure they would sonically be enough of an upgrade over my Vandys to merit the extra bucks.

I understand "sound" is subjective, however opinions are appreciated.

Think you'll be VERY pleasantly surprised by the Bryston. They're amazing speakers.

James Tanner - Bryston 12-06-2013 12:34 PM

Mini T Speaker Review in Absolute Sound Magazine:


http://www.bryston.com/PDF/reviews/2...ute_Mini_T.pdf

James Tanner - Bryston 12-20-2013 07:50 PM

Hi Folks,

Because they are more alike than different:

Here is a link to a new Bryston Speaker Brochure which includes both the Model T and Model A Series.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/5gpj2lr56d...1214%20web.pdf

james

Bigalsworth 12-21-2013 10:43 AM

Hi James,

What are the Canadian prices on the Model A line? Also due to the size of the Model A line would a sub most likely be needed to make up some of the lacking base?

Looking forward to hearing these.

Scott

James Tanner - Bryston 12-21-2013 01:56 PM

Hi

The Model A1 per pair is $3490 List

Model A2 - $2790

Model A3 - $2390

The only difference is 6.5 inch bass drivers instead of 8 inch so yes there is less bass capability but a Sub would not normally be needed assuming the right application.

I really did not want a better/best approch to our speakers - I wanted the choice to be an 'application' choice - in other words - how big, is your room, how loud do you play, what kind of music do you typically listen too etc.

james

Bigalsworth 12-21-2013 03:18 PM

Awesome thanks James,

Price wise the Model A's are very attractive. The room I will be using is fairly large (in my mind) at 16' * 34', and I listen to all types of music. #1 purpose would be home theater though, and at the price of the model A1 I could get 2 sets of those for fronts and front wides for the price of one set of Model T's. I did fall in love with the Model T and they would fill that room nicely. Arg so many choices which are so good but so hard to make.

Thanks again,

Scott

James Tanner - Bryston 01-01-2014 12:00 PM

MEMO: To All Bryston Customers
SUBJECT: Bryston Mini T Speaker Review – Soundstage Magazine


Hi Folks,

New review from Soundstage Magazine on the Bryston Mini T loudspeaker!

My favorite comment:

“Their sound was uncolored -- neither forward nor recessed, fat nor thin, romantic nor analytical. In what was basically an all-Bryston system, the Mini Ts were simply conduits at the end of a disinterested signal chain that reproduced music with clarity, a sense of ease, and excellent soundstaging”.

Please see link:
SoundStage! Access | SoundStageAccess.com (GoodSound.com) | Bryston Mini T Loudspeakers

James Tanner
Bryston

Humbuster 01-09-2014 10:33 AM

Finally going to audition the Mini T today.
Looking forward to hearing these bad boys.

James Tanner - Bryston 01-20-2014 04:05 PM

The Bryston Mini T – A New Reference

Over four decades ago, I took my first steps into a special form of insanity: I became a novice audiophile. It is a craziness that consists of reaching for an unreachable end, the sound of “live” music through a process that is entirely artificial, manufactured, in other words, reproduced sound. It is not unlike the insanity of trying to find the “real” potato chip in a highly processed one. The processed one can be delightful, but it can never be a real one. It is an image, a reproduction designed to imitate a real one. Being a audiophile is to become Jason pursuing the Golden Fleece, but knowing that it is unattainable. It is the chase and the stops along the way that keep you going. And on that journey, you have lots of good times and some bad ones. On occasion in chasing the Fleece, you get distracted and end up being fleeced purchasing gimmicks touted to have magical effects.

As a novice audiophile, I was advised to start with the speakers. Buy the best ones you can afford, with best meaning the ones whose sound you like the best, and then buy the electronics. It has been good advice to which I've adhered. I've owned a number of speakers and a lot of excellent electronics, most of which bear the Bryston logo. But the greatest changes always have come with changes in speakers. Early on, I looked for speakers that were linear or balanced, meaning that no frequency range dominated over any other. It was only years later that I added other useful criteria: accuracy, transparency, depth in the sound stage, pinpoint imaging. One knowledgeable audiophile has noted, correctly I believe, that a reference speaker for consumers means the one they like the best. If you are an audiophile, it also is a good idea to like speakers that are accurate, transparent, etc. because the whole point of your hobby (obsession?) is to get a close as possible to what the producers of the sound recording decided to release. If you're on the quest to get near the Golden Fleece of “real” (meaning to get out of the recording exactly what was put into it) you need to have the elements of “real” in as part of your mindset. Ironically, you can love the sound of your speakers, but they should not have any sound of their own. You don't want your glasses to be rose coloured unless all you want to see is roses. You don't want speakers that are all bass unless all you want to hear is bass.

Several years ago, I bought, twice, very expensive and beautiful sounding speakers that were highly coloured (a bass bias). Seduced by a beautiful sounding, but not accurate bass, I had drifted from my early goal of linear and when I finally heard much less expensive but very linear speakers in a side-by-side test, it was a shock. Being out many thousands of dollars, it was difficult to admit that I had misplaced my love. Those beautiful speakers are now gone. It was a pricey mistake, but through it I re-learned that in audio price is not a predictor of performance. This lesson was first taught to me as a Bryston owner. In the high end audio market, there is a segment that caters to those customers who equate price to performance because there are enough rich people who do as well. Bryston, on the other hand, apparently believes there are enough people who are willing to pay for the highest quality product possible, even if that means charging a price lower than could be gotten from rich people. And Bryston has never been willing to squeeze an extra buck out of its customers by attracting them with bling.

It's not surprising then that I was one of the early buyers of the fabulous, bling-free Bryston Model T. It is driven by an all Bryston system: a pair of 7BSST2 amplifiers, BDA1, BDP-1, BIT15 Power Conditioner (under the Torus label). My sound room is fairly good in size and shape, if not ideal.

The Model T is now my reference speaker. Linear, accurate, etc. All I wanted. And more. A critical “more.” Presence - the sense that musicians are playing in the room. I never heard that before in my present or past sound rooms, or indeed in any demo of any speaker I've heard. If the elusive Golden Fleece is to hear “real” music, it is hard for me to conceive how much closer an audiophile can get to this.

So now my main system, the Sound room/Model T/Bryston electronics system, is my reference. I recognize that various applications and their respective environments inherently will be different from my main system environment. But still, I weigh the performance of my car stereo, my headphones, my home theatre my mobile devices with my headphones against my ModelT-based system. Where I find differences, I adjust these other systems, often through equalization, to achieve a closer approximation to my reference system. For example, after buying a number of headphones, I have found that Shure's new SE846 to be as close is possible for a headphone to get to the Model T sound, without EQ. They now are my reference headphones against which I judge other headphones, recognizing that no headphone can sound exactly like speakers that use walls instead of ear canals for acoustic effects.

Recently I decided to attach better speakers to my laptop. Using an Outlaw receiver and B&W 685 bookshelf speakers I got a good result. I added an AudioQuest Dragonfly DAC and it got better. But the audiophile itch is always there. How to make it better? My answer usually has been Bryston, and I was impressed by a recent review by a professional in audio mastering who used Bryston Mini as near field speakers, which is what speakers are in my computer set up. That set up is located at the far end of my sound room. The Mini Ts are about 3-5 inches from an angled wall. Not a great arrangement when compared to the placement at the other end with my Model T. I knew that sound driven through a noisy laptop and a receiver is going to be handicapped when compared to my main system. The B&W 685s sounded good. Voices were trust forward, and as is typical of B&W, the sound, especially in the treble region, was sweet. But to get anything approximating the Model T set up, I had to do quite a bit of equalization, and even then (or because of it) it was not very good bass.

In view of the limitations of the location and the associated electronics, I bet the Mini T would perform better than the B&W685, but not as well as it does.

The Mini T instantly solved the bass problem, as I expected and hoped. Very close to the Model T sound, albeit without (again as expected) as much depth and weight. I was worried about that the rear ports being so close to the wall would mess up the bass. No problem: no flab or boominess. Visceral. Robust. Controlled. Enchanting. And not a smidgen of EQ. It is not surprising how many reviewers have commented on the T bass in all models. Despite all the other problems using speakers in this location and with these electronics, the Mini T more than approximated my Model T sound in terms of linearity, transparency accuracy, and pinpoint imaging. They may as well be Model Ts. But there is no overcoming the unavoidable reality of this placement and application. The depth is more shallow and the width of the soundstage is narrower. These differences are inevitable.

There is one major point where the Mini T does not approach or approximate my Model T setup. Presence. I believe this is because of the placement lacking the dynamics of normal distances from walls. It may be if I were to set the Mini Ts where the Model T is now, I might find that it, too, has presence. Some reviewers have been so impressed with the Mini T that they prefer it in some respects to the Model T. I doubt that this would be my preference, especially given the inevitable differences in the bass end, where the T has three 8” drivers to the Mini's one. Moreover, I don't expect or need this use of the Mini T to produce an exact copy of my main system's sound. I can turn around, get up, sit in my easy chair, and crank up the main system and listen to the reference Model T system. The merit of getting close to the sound quality and sound signature of the main system is to use a different application, as I do my Shure SE846 with mobile devices over WiFi, without feeling I've sacrificed a great deal.

What is not sacrificed at all with the Mini T used with my computer system is the kind of enjoyment I get with the Model T system. There are telltale signs when the sound is right to my ear and consistent with my predilections. First, in listening to my raft of old favourites, I get the “shiver.” That knee-jeck emotional response that makes music great and systems that produce it so appealing. The Mini Ts in my testing did this over and over. Second, if I am doing something while listening to music (reading, writing pieces like this one), and the sound draws me away to it, I know I have something special special. This is one the qualities that the Model T and Mini T share in equal measure.

The bottom line is this: the Mini T is a terrific speaker that can make even bad locations, standard electronics, and plain Jane computers sound wonderful. It is now my reference computer speaker, and I wouldn’t be surprised that for many others it will become their main system reference speaker.

Dave

James Tanner - Bryston 01-25-2014 03:23 PM

MEMO: To All Bryston Customers
SUBJECT: Model A Series Speakers

January 2014

Hi Folks

Please be advised that the Bryston Model A Tower Speaker Series is now available on our website – Bryston Limited: Music for a Generation



Bryston: Model A1 Loudspeaker

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We will be adding the Mini A bookshelf and two A Series matching Center Channels to the website shortly as well.


JamesTanner
Bryston Ltd.

dznutz 01-25-2014 05:20 PM

James, when will the Model T speakers start being manufactured without the word "Axiom" cast on the baskets?

James Tanner - Bryston 01-25-2014 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dznutz (Post 573894)
James, when will the Model T speakers start being manufactured without the word "Axiom" cast on the baskets?

It would strictly be cosmetic as the driver is built by them for us and to make another casing costs a lot and as you know I have been trying to keep the costs as low as possible without affecting performance.

That being said the market forces seem to be pushing me in the direction of getting our own midrange tool made with Bryston on it - (funny how perception affects acceptance aye!) So I have started the ball rolling and should have Bryston Cast on the Mids in a few months - we already have it on the Tweeter. The Mids will be retrofittable if someone has the speakers now and wants to change them out.

james

Kal Rubinson 01-25-2014 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by James Tanner - Bryston (Post 573931)
So I have started the ball rolling and should have Bryston Cast on the Mids in a few months - we already have it on the Tweeter. The Mids will be retrofittable if someone has the speakers now and wants to change them out.

It would be great if you could offer that as a firmware download. :D

James Tanner - Bryston 01-25-2014 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Kal Rubinson (Post 573939)
It would be great if you could offer that as a firmware download. :D

LOL :tresbon:

James Tanner - Bryston 01-31-2014 11:21 AM

Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 7:56 AM
To: contact@bryston.com
Subject: OCF –Bryston Mini T's

“Hi James

I had the opportunity to listen to a pair of your Bryston Mini T speakers.

They have ruined me as now everything else (speaker wise) I listen to sounds pale in comparison.

Well done on your foray into the speaker market.”

Charles Morrisey
Via the Bryston Contact Form


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