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joel_hifi 02-16-2021 10:11 AM

New Porsche 911 GT3
 
https://youtu.be/eP5V0Z6_CXw

PHC1 02-16-2021 09:39 PM

The New 911 GT3: Onboard at the Nordschleife

https://youtu.be/mGF7AgzlPMk

joel_hifi 03-01-2021 05:11 PM

Faster and faster... 0-60 mph <3.0 s on the next RS?

991.1 GT3

Years: 2013-2016
Engine: Flat 6 / 3.8 L
Power: 475 PS (469 hp/349 kW)
Torque: 440 Nm (325 lb.ft)
0-60 mph: PDK 3.5 s
Top speed: 315 km/h (196 mph)
Weight: 1430 kg (3153 lb)
Units built: 6300

991.1 GT3 RS

Years: 2015-17
Engine: Flat 6 / 4.0 L
Power: 500 PS (493 hp/368 kW)
Torque: 460 Nm (339 lb.ft)
0-60 mph: PDK 3.3 s
Top speed: 310 km/h (193 mph)
Weight: 1420 kg (3131 lb)
Units built: 4500
Nürburgring Nordschleife: 7.20.00

991.2 GT3

Years: 2017-2019
Engine: Flat 6 / 4.0 L
Power: 500 PS (493 hp/368 kW)
Torque: 460 Nm (339 lb.ft)
0-60 mph: PDK 3.4 s / Manual 3.9 s
Top speed: PDK 318 km/h (198 mph) / Manual 320 km/h (199 mph)
Weight: PDK 1430 kg (3153 lb) / Manual 1413 kg (3115 lb)
Units built: 9500

991.2 GT3 RS

Years: 2018-2019
Engine: Flat 6 / 4.0 L
Power: 520 PS (513 hp/382 kW)
Torque: 470 Nm (347 lb.ft)
0-60 mph: PDK 3.2 s
Top speed: 312 km/h (194 mph)
Weight: 1430 kg (3153 lb)
Units built: 4880
Nürburgring Nordschleife: 06.56.40

992 GT3

Years: 2021-
Engine: Flat 6 / 4.0 L
Power: 510 PS (503 hp/375 kW)
Torque: 470 Nm (347 lb.ft)
0-60 mph: PDK 3.2 s / Manual 3.8 s
Top speed: PDK 318 km/h (198 mph) / Manual 320 km/h (199 mph)
Weight: PDK 1435 kg (3164 lb) / Manual 1418 kg (3126 lb)
Units to be built: ?
Nürburgring Nordschleife: 06.55.20

PHC1 03-01-2021 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joel_hifi (Post 1033863)
Faster and faster... 0-60 mph <3.0 s on the next RS?

991.1 GT3

Years: 2013-2016
Engine: Flat 6 / 3.8 L
Power: 475 PS (469 hp/349 kW)
Torque: 440 Nm (325 lb.ft)
0-60 mph: PDK 3.5 s
Top speed: 315 km/h (196 mph)
Weight: 1430 kg (3153 lb)
Units built: 6300

991.1 GT3 RS

Years: 2015-17
Engine: Flat 6 / 4.0 L
Power: 500 PS (493 hp/368 kW)
Torque: 460 Nm (339 lb.ft)
0-60 mph: PDK 3.3 s
Top speed: 310 km/h (193 mph)
Weight: 1420 kg (3131 lb)
Units built: 4500
Nürburgring Nordschleife: 7.20.00

991.2 GT3

Years: 2017-2019
Engine: Flat 6 / 4.0 L
Power: 500 PS (493 hp/368 kW)
Torque: 460 Nm (339 lb.ft)
0-60 mph: PDK 3.4 s / Manual 3.9 s
Top speed: PDK 318 km/h (198 mph) / Manual 320 km/h (199 mph)
Weight: PDK 1430 kg (3153 lb) / Manual 1413 kg (3115 lb)
Units built: 9500

991.2 GT3 RS

Years: 2018-2019
Engine: Flat 6 / 4.0 L
Power: 520 PS (513 hp/382 kW)
Torque: 470 Nm (347 lb.ft)
0-60 mph: PDK 3.2 s
Top speed: 312 km/h (194 mph)
Weight: 1430 kg (3153 lb)
Units built: 4880
Nürburgring Nordschleife: 06.56.40

992 GT3

Years: 2021-
Engine: Flat 6 / 4.0 L
Power: 510 PS (503 hp/375 kW)
Torque: 470 Nm (347 lb.ft)
0-60 mph: PDK 3.2 s / Manual 3.8 s
Top speed: PDK 318 km/h (198 mph) / Manual 320 km/h (199 mph)
Weight: PDK 1435 kg (3164 lb) / Manual 1418 kg (3126 lb)
Units to be built: ?
Nürburgring Nordschleife: 06.55.20

I picked up my 2015 GT3RS in October of '15, drove it once and sold it to a very happy client. Let's just say it did nothing for me as a street car and the premium people were willing to pay for one was way too good to pass up. :thumbsup:

I do miss my 2008 GT3 with the Mezger engine and motorsport derived 6 speed manual. No electronic nannies and the wail of the engine near the redline made the hairs on the back of my neck stand up at full throttle.

I've owned over 12 Porsches so I've had my fun. :yes:

They all belong on the track to really appreciate them these days as they are way too capable but there are even more interesting dedicated track toys for that purpose.

joel_hifi 03-05-2021 05:07 AM

Serge, cannot agree more, those GT3s live a happier life on the track :)

Assume one reason they are quite popular on track days is that they are more cost efficient than dedicated racing cars, and therefore appealing to the occasional gentleman driver.

PHC1 03-05-2021 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joel_hifi (Post 1034124)
Serge, cannot agree more, those GT3s live a happier life on the track :)

Assume one reason they are quite popular on track days is that they are more cost efficient than dedicated racing cars, and therefore appealing to the occasional gentleman driver.

Joel, all depends of course. Much cheaper than a "dedicated race car" but a "track car" does not have to be a $150k-280k machine either. :D

The dual nature/purpose of a GT3 is hard to resist for the enthusiasts hitting the track often. Brilliant on the track and is actually a pretty good street car if one is a true enthusiast willing to sacrifice a bit of comfort and being aware of the ground clearances (front end lift helps).

Being in a GT3RS with PDK (the only choice that gen) was not my cup of tea so I sold my RS. Perhaps if I did not own a few GT3s with manuals before the RS, I would have been more enthusiastic.

Of course if one is to track the GT3/GT3RS often or seriously trying to improve lap times, PDK is the only way to go. It's a faster car all around with PDK.

The manual is the ultimate expression of a weekend toy and leisure/spirited drives on the twisty, country/back roads as the PDK is also way better for traffic and daily commutes. :D

Good to have choices. Time is running out for these toys. They will all entertain us in total silence soon. :D

joel_hifi 03-05-2021 08:52 AM

Serge, having studied a few years back the various options before settling on the 991.1 GT3 PDK, I found that it was a good compromise between:

- cost of acquisition (I was lucky to find one with very low mileage at a decent discount)
- cost of maintenance (my good friend had a McLaren... ouch that bites)
- relative performance on the track vs. (much) pricier options
- ease of use and confort outside tracks thanks to front lift system and adaptive seats; and convenience of self driving to the track

You are right, in the end it's probably worth it if you do spend a decent amount of quality time of the track, which I have been fortunate enough to enjoy with this car :D

There are surely other very good cheaper "track cars" out there but to my liking the GT3 is a good compromise for the reasons listed above.

I'm looking forward to hit the track again with the start of the season - Covid rules permitting - also to see how many EVs will be joining and how they will measure :thumbsup:

PHC1 03-05-2021 09:14 AM

Joel, no doubt you will have lots of fun with at the track. :thumbsup:

Mack 03-05-2021 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joel_hifi (Post 1033863)
Faster and faster... 0-60 mph <3.0 s on the next RS?

991.1 GT3

Years: 2013-2016
Engine: Flat 6 / 3.8 L
Power: 475 PS (469 hp/349 kW)
Torque: 440 Nm (325 lb.ft)
0-60 mph: PDK 3.5 s
Top speed: 315 km/h (196 mph)
Weight: 1430 kg (3153 lb)
Units built: 6300

991.1 GT3 RS

Years: 2015-17
Engine: Flat 6 / 4.0 L
Power: 500 PS (493 hp/368 kW)
Torque: 460 Nm (339 lb.ft)
0-60 mph: PDK 3.3 s
Top speed: 310 km/h (193 mph)
Weight: 1420 kg (3131 lb)
Units built: 4500
Nürburgring Nordschleife: 7.20.00

991.2 GT3

Years: 2017-2019
Engine: Flat 6 / 4.0 L
Power: 500 PS (493 hp/368 kW)
Torque: 460 Nm (339 lb.ft)
0-60 mph: PDK 3.4 s / Manual 3.9 s
Top speed: PDK 318 km/h (198 mph) / Manual 320 km/h (199 mph)
Weight: PDK 1430 kg (3153 lb) / Manual 1413 kg (3115 lb)
Units built: 9500

991.2 GT3 RS

Years: 2018-2019
Engine: Flat 6 / 4.0 L
Power: 520 PS (513 hp/382 kW)
Torque: 470 Nm (347 lb.ft)
0-60 mph: PDK 3.2 s
Top speed: 312 km/h (194 mph)
Weight: 1430 kg (3153 lb)
Units built: 4880
Nürburgring Nordschleife: 06.56.40

992 GT3

Years: 2021-
Engine: Flat 6 / 4.0 L
Power: 510 PS (503 hp/375 kW)
Torque: 470 Nm (347 lb.ft)
0-60 mph: PDK 3.2 s / Manual 3.8 s
Top speed: PDK 318 km/h (198 mph) / Manual 320 km/h (199 mph)
Weight: PDK 1435 kg (3164 lb) / Manual 1418 kg (3126 lb)
Units to be built: ?
Nürburgring Nordschleife: 06.55.20

The specs are quite close....but now more about down force.

joel_hifi 03-05-2021 11:32 AM

Michael, very good point.

Here's an interesting article regarding the swan neck rear wing

http://themotormuse.com/2021/02/18/p...wan-neck-wing/


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