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cmalak 10-15-2011 03:04 PM

Lamm LL2.1 Deluxe Preamplifier review from The Soundstage.com...
 
It received a Reviewer's Choice award. Here's the link: Lamm LL2.1 Deluxe Preamplifier

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sidvee 01-01-2013 12:37 AM

Lamm ll2.1 deluxe
 
I bought one of these recently to replace an ARC Ls26. In my system the Lamm is performing much better, better bass extension, extended soundstage and precise imaging. OTOH I feel it is more noisy than the Ls26.
Cheers,
Sid

chessman 01-01-2013 01:14 AM

Sid, welcome aboard! :wave:

sidvee 01-01-2013 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by chessman (Post 419482)
Sid, welcome aboard! :wave:

Thanks Chessman - Pleasure to be a part of the fastest growing forum!:D
Cheers,
Sid

Masterlu 01-01-2013 02:01 AM

Sid... Welcome! :pg2:

sidvee 01-01-2013 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Masterlu (Post 419509)
Sid... Welcome! :pg2:

Thanks a lot Ivan. Awesome forum! Looking forward to learning a lot from the Guru's here, such as yourself.
Cheers,
Sid

Glisse 01-02-2013 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by sidvee (Post 419462)
I bought one of these recently to replace an ARC Ls26. In my system the Lamm is performing much better, better bass extension, extended soundstage and precise imaging. OTOH I feel it is more noisy than the Ls26.
Cheers,
Sid

Welcome, Sid.

It should not be noisier, as both preamps have a reputation for being unusually quiet for tubed designs :scratch2:

I have an LL2 Deluxe, which is more susceptible to noise issues than the 2.1, and any noise has resulted from tubes (which may include dirty pins), grounding, or cables. Never the preamp itself. So worth playing around to reduce the noise, which should be achievable. And shoot off an email to Lamm for their input, which I am sure they will provide.

sidvee 01-02-2013 10:44 AM

Thanks Glisse. I believe it has more to do with amplifier matching. When I changed amps. from my current SS amp. to tube monoblocks the noise floor was very low - almost inaudible, but it is elevated when I put the SS amp. back in the loop. Regardless the pre-amp. sounds excellent and I am ok with the noise level which is inaudible from my listening position 8' away and is not noticeable unless I get to about 2' distance from the speakers.
Cheers,
Sid

Glisse 01-02-2013 07:43 PM

Sounds like a ground issue then, maybe worth just connecting a wire from the earth socket on the Lamm to a chassis point on the SS power amp to see if it drops the noise floor. Or try a different IC.

For me, too high a noise floor can interfere with the subtle harmonic decays that add to sound staging and involvement with the music, even if the noise itself isn't that obvious. And it is a great preamp, as you say, so worth trying to get the best out of it :thumbsup:

PHC1 01-02-2013 07:48 PM

This thread reminded me just how much I enjoyed my time with the Lamm LL2D preamp and the M1.2 Hybrids... :music:


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