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Old 10-01-2009, 08:16 PM
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JL Subs are addicting!
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Old 10-01-2009, 11:10 PM
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I know, I just ordered a f112 as well! I'll be reading here to learn some set up tips too! I can't wait to hear it paired with the TB2i's
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Old 10-01-2009, 11:13 PM
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I think I sold about 9 subs today! Whew, everyone decided to wait till Oct 1st
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MX136(1) C15(1) MC205(1) MC206(1) MC162(2) MC402(1) MC602(1) MC1.2KW(12) MC2KW(2) MQ109B(1) MR85(1) MR88(1) MCD205(1) MS300(2) MCD500(2) MCD301(2) MS750(2) MVP871(1) MVP881(1) MCD1000(2) MDA1000(2) C1000C(1) C1000P/T(1) MPC1500(1) MA6500(1) HT2(2) HT3F(2) WS350(2) XRT2K(2) XCS2K(1) XR200(2) XRT30(2) XR27(2) MC2301(2) XCS350(2) XLS112(2) R778(1) BYBEE QUANTUM FILTERS, FURMAN REFERENCE IT POWER(1) GRACE M902 AMP(1) PIONEER ELITE BDP-09FD(2) PS AUDIO PPP(14) PS AUDIO POWER PORTS(25) PS AUDIO SOLOIST SE (15) RGPC 600(8) RGPC 1200(36) RGPC POLE PIG(4) JL GOTHAM SUBS(2) JL FATHOM F113(2) LUMAGEN RADIANCE SCALER(1) SONY VPH-G90U PROJECTOR(1) SVS LIFT(1) STEWART STUDIOTEK 110" MOTORIZED SCREEN, ASC ACOUSTIC PANELS & BASS TRAPS, CINEMATECH SEATING, SYMPOSIUM ROLLERBLOCKS, WIREWORLD GOLD ECLIPSE CABLES & WIREWORLD SILVER ELECTRA PC'S

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MX150(1) MX120(1) MC501(4) MC1.2KW(10) MC2301(2) MQ109B(1) MR88(1) MCD500(2) MS750(2) MVP881(1) MEN220(1) MCD1000(1) MDA1000(1) C1000C(1) C1000P/T(1) MPC1500(1) HT3F(2) XRT2K(2) XCS2K(1) XR27(2) MA6600(1) XLS360(2) LS360(2) ELITE 60" KURO(1) SONY KDL-52XBR9(2) R778(1) BYBEE QUANTUM FILTERS, PIONEER ELITE BDP-09FD(1) BENCHMARK DAC-1 HDR(1) PS AUDIO PPP(15) PS AUDIO POWER PORTS(30) PS AUDIO SOLOIST SE(18) RGPC 1200(15) SURGEX XF2(5) JL GOTHAM SUBS(2) JL FATHOM F113(2) JL FATHOM 112(2) LUMAGEN RADIANCE SCALER(1) SONY VPH-G90U PROJECTOR(1) STEWART STUDIOTEK 120" SCREEN, SONUS FABER STRADIVARI HOMAGE(2) URC MX-6000 REMOTE, NAKAMICHI DRAGON(1) TEAC X2000R R2R (1) SONY PS3 (1) SONOS MULTI-ROOM SYSTEM(4) SONOS ZONE PLAYER(4) ASC ACOUSTIC PANELS & BASS TRAPS, FORTRESS SEATING, HRS DAMPING PLATES(10) SYMPOSIUM ROLLERBLOCKS, WIREWORLD GOLD & PLATINUM ECLIPSE CABLES & WIREWORLD SILVER ELECTRA PC'S


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Old 10-01-2009, 11:19 PM
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Mitch.......The Fathom f112 will be a perfect compliment to the PMC TB2i speakers. The f112 will go where no TB2i has gone before.

You will love this subwoofer in your system.


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Old 10-02-2009, 01:13 AM
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Can't wait to post something of substance in this thread. A pair of these in my room is something I've been waiting for and am looking forward to learning how to blend them.

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Old 10-09-2009, 12:22 PM
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Why did I not get the subs first!? I did a 3 step upgrade path. Wires, vibration control and finally subs. I had 1 and 3 backwards. Maybe. I realize that all the pieces contribute to the desired sound but the subs are in their own league.

I'm playing with positioning, crossover and level controls because they are close but not right yet. They can keep up with the ESL panels of which I grateful for. I played with my REL months and could not get as close to this as I have in 2 days with the JL's.

I didn't realize I had so much stuff vibrating in the house during the test tones! A quick run to Lowe's and a bunch of sticky dots to place behind picture frames solved a lot of issues.

The added foundation has brought a tremendous difference to the mids and highs and makes the Spire sound like a new speaker. The sound-stage appears much wider and deeper than without. The additional slam in the lower registers, which is lacking in an ESL, is a welcome improvement!!

Thanks to everyone here especially Ivan for pointing me in this direction. Serge, still have the Bryston available? I hate you guys!!

Gordon

Serge, I just saw your thread on the Bryston bumped. Very tempting!
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Old 10-09-2009, 12:25 PM
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So glad you are happy & in the Sub Zone!
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MX136(1) C15(1) MC205(1) MC206(1) MC162(2) MC402(1) MC602(1) MC1.2KW(12) MC2KW(2) MQ109B(1) MR85(1) MR88(1) MCD205(1) MS300(2) MCD500(2) MCD301(2) MS750(2) MVP871(1) MVP881(1) MCD1000(2) MDA1000(2) C1000C(1) C1000P/T(1) MPC1500(1) MA6500(1) HT2(2) HT3F(2) WS350(2) XRT2K(2) XCS2K(1) XR200(2) XRT30(2) XR27(2) MC2301(2) XCS350(2) XLS112(2) R778(1) BYBEE QUANTUM FILTERS, FURMAN REFERENCE IT POWER(1) GRACE M902 AMP(1) PIONEER ELITE BDP-09FD(2) PS AUDIO PPP(14) PS AUDIO POWER PORTS(25) PS AUDIO SOLOIST SE (15) RGPC 600(8) RGPC 1200(36) RGPC POLE PIG(4) JL GOTHAM SUBS(2) JL FATHOM F113(2) LUMAGEN RADIANCE SCALER(1) SONY VPH-G90U PROJECTOR(1) SVS LIFT(1) STEWART STUDIOTEK 110" MOTORIZED SCREEN, ASC ACOUSTIC PANELS & BASS TRAPS, CINEMATECH SEATING, SYMPOSIUM ROLLERBLOCKS, WIREWORLD GOLD ECLIPSE CABLES & WIREWORLD SILVER ELECTRA PC'S

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MX150(1) MX120(1) MC501(4) MC1.2KW(10) MC2301(2) MQ109B(1) MR88(1) MCD500(2) MS750(2) MVP881(1) MEN220(1) MCD1000(1) MDA1000(1) C1000C(1) C1000P/T(1) MPC1500(1) HT3F(2) XRT2K(2) XCS2K(1) XR27(2) MA6600(1) XLS360(2) LS360(2) ELITE 60" KURO(1) SONY KDL-52XBR9(2) R778(1) BYBEE QUANTUM FILTERS, PIONEER ELITE BDP-09FD(1) BENCHMARK DAC-1 HDR(1) PS AUDIO PPP(15) PS AUDIO POWER PORTS(30) PS AUDIO SOLOIST SE(18) RGPC 1200(15) SURGEX XF2(5) JL GOTHAM SUBS(2) JL FATHOM F113(2) JL FATHOM 112(2) LUMAGEN RADIANCE SCALER(1) SONY VPH-G90U PROJECTOR(1) STEWART STUDIOTEK 120" SCREEN, SONUS FABER STRADIVARI HOMAGE(2) URC MX-6000 REMOTE, NAKAMICHI DRAGON(1) TEAC X2000R R2R (1) SONY PS3 (1) SONOS MULTI-ROOM SYSTEM(4) SONOS ZONE PLAYER(4) ASC ACOUSTIC PANELS & BASS TRAPS, FORTRESS SEATING, HRS DAMPING PLATES(10) SYMPOSIUM ROLLERBLOCKS, WIREWORLD GOLD & PLATINUM ECLIPSE CABLES & WIREWORLD SILVER ELECTRA PC'S


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Why did I not get the subs first!? I did a 3 step upgrade path. Wires, vibration control and finally subs. I had 1 and 3 backwards. Maybe. I realize that all the pieces contribute to the desired sound but the subs are in their own league.

I'm playing with positioning, crossover and level controls because they are close but not right yet. They can keep up with the ESL panels of which I grateful for. I played with my REL months and could not get as close to this as I have in 2 days with the JL's.

I didn't realize I had so much stuff vibrating in the house during the test tones! A quick run to Lowe's and a bunch of sticky dots to place behind picture frames solved a lot of issues.

The added foundation has brought a tremendous difference to the mids and highs and makes the Spire sound like a new speaker. The sound-stage appears much wider and deeper than without. The additional slam in the lower registers, which is lacking in an ESL, is a welcome improvement!!

Thanks to everyone here especially Ivan for pointing me in this direction. Serge, still have the Bryston available? I hate you guys!!

Gordon

Serge, I just saw your thread on the Bryston bumped. Very tempting!
Gordon, the JL subs are the "fastest" in the industry as far as I am concerned based on the amount of different subs I have heard before. Great choice for an ESL speaker.

As far as the Bryston, on the one hand you already have a powered bass cabinet in those speakers. On the other, the JL may actually blend better and may actually outperform your own powered bass cabs in your speakers if you allow the Bryston/Fathom to take over the duties of your powered bass driver.


You would be good up to 100Hz and maybe even a bit higher with the JL sub. That is as high as I can vouch for the Fathoms having played around with them extensively. They remain tight, crisp, well articulated and completely musical and in control up to those frequencies.


PM me, I can let you try the Bryston to see how it performs in your system.
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Serge, that is a generous offer I may take up in a few weeks. I am just scratching the surface of this integration and I don't think I've exhausted all the variables available to me at this point.

I'm starting my second pad of paper writing down numbers and have a spare battery for my SPL meter! It's fun and when I get frustrated, I just stop. This is supposed to be a hobby after all. Some of the numbers are a little puzzling but it is all part of the curve.

Gordon
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Old 10-11-2009, 02:26 AM
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Hello all im new to this forum Im an owner of 2 JL Audio Fathoms which I most pleased with. I was wondering has anyone gone into trying there new seperate Sub EQ from Audyssey? Im looking at getting one but would love to read from people who have one.

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